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| Inigo Member Since: 13 Nov 2011 Location: Kent Posts: 617   
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I rang them a week ago and they said mid-June.
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19th Jun 2014 6:49am |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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They dont seem to update their website very often. I rang them whilst it said out of stock and got one within a week. They seem to get new stock every couple of weeks, but im assuming they sell them as fast as they get them in. Ive got an ATB to go in, and my HD shafts and drive members arrived yesterday  |
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19th Jun 2014 7:49am |
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| Stue5 Member Since: 06 Jul 2014 Location: Marche Posts: 111  
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Hi Chaps, (go ease its my first post)
I am looking at fitting atb diffs(front and rear) but want to hear a little bit more about the affects on cornering/handling (understeer/oversteer)the front diff has from the people who use them  . I will using the land rover on snow covered roads which tends to exaggerate the traits of the vehicle....
Have you noticed any increased front tyre wear? Very impressed with your 110& posts tatra805  thank you. Range Rover p38 4.6 99 lpg(gone  ) |
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6th Jul 2014 5:33pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443 
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I've had Ashcroft ATBs in both axles of my 110 for 3 years (75,000 miles) now and can honestly say that I have never noticed any adverse affects at all. Tyre wear is unchanged and I am still on course to get 100,000 useful miles from my current set of BFG M/Ts.
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6th Jul 2014 7:19pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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Cant help with the front, but ive had a Ashcroft ATB in the rear for a few weeks now, and I cannot tell the difference on the road.
Off road it makes a difference on low traction surfaces, but if you have a wheel in the air it wont help. |
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6th Jul 2014 8:18pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443
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Brake gently and it usually will, with a wheel in the air. You have to have some load on the spinning wheel.
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6th Jul 2014 8:27pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5729 
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"Off road it makes a difference on low traction surfaces, but if you have a wheel in the air it wont help."
Unless you've got TC ANDY |
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6th Jul 2014 8:27pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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yeah. more practise required i think. only done the one P&P with it in so far. the next one will be muddy rather than rocky so will be more suited. still in 2 minds when i upgrade the front axle whether to either buy another ATB or move the one I have to the front and buy an ashcroft locker for the back. decisions decisions
some taller tyres and a lift will be happening first whatever though |
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6th Jul 2014 8:30pm |
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| Stue5 Member Since: 06 Jul 2014 Location: Marche Posts: 111
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Thanks for the info, is there much impact on the road like tuck in on lift off in corners ect? Pull under power in corners? Range Rover p38 4.6 99 lpg(gone
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6th Jul 2014 8:49pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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its early for me, but honestly i could not tell its in, and i was looking for it. note mine is in the rear only. im guessing more obvious up front, and more obvious with more power and in the winter etc. given mine is an old 200tdi and its on dry roads YMMV.
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6th Jul 2014 8:57pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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Alexander
Brilliant write up, I've always been a fan of LSDs and your write up convinced me to order from Dave at Ashcroft Front going in next month An FYI : my rear 1/2 shafts were thoroughly greased by LR, I know there have been posts of dry splines |
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25th May 2015 4:20am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 
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^^ Steve,
....rear half shafts thoroughly greased by LR.... Do you mean at factory, or by Autobritt, or later? I have no idea when my rear halfshafts were replaced about 1.5 years ago by Autobritt under the extended warranty, if they were greased by them or not. Should ask them. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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25th May 2015 4:27am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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^^^ Eric
Not sure, I bought the truck new (0 kms) so does not matter, but my guess would be autobritt, it does not leak water in either and has a new clutch just before I bought it .. That was done by autobritt |
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25th May 2015 5:51am |
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| tatra805 Member Since: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Dolany Posts: 436  
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On the halfshafts
Rear shafts: Splines are on their way out, i would guess about 1/3rd of spline left. original 112000km 2nd set of drive flanges and driven without the oil seals in the axles since 70 000km. (and all nicely oily when i looked) Looking at replacing them and tempted to go for the ashcroft HD ones. As per PM, bpman i agree with your comment that a half shaft is kind of a easy replaceable "consumable" but prefer the drive flanges to wear out over a driveshaft failing. No fun trying to pick out the remaining spline-piece if the shaft breaks at the diff. Seeing the splines wear on the shafts i tend to like HD. Something i noticed and might be of interest. When i replaced the drive flanges (70k km) the shaft splines were still 100% ok, i replaced them with non oem but oem spec flanges (so not HD ones) (if i remember correct it were britpart flanges) I now see that the splines on the shafts wore more than the flanges. Are the britpart flanges harder than OEM and therefore eating the splines on the shafts and not vice-versa??? Not something i like. |
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25th May 2015 11:07am |
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