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| rustyboxx Member Since: 08 Oct 2012 Location: Poole Posts: 548   
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I think you require a showman's licence to do that. I asked the DVLA some years ago when I wanted to tow a woodchipper behind an Ifor Williams trailer behind my old 90. It was a no-go on an ordinary licence and HGV licence that I had at the time. 2015 90 XS CSW TDCi - Beautiful
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20th Jun 2014 12:44pm |
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| Surrey Rover Member Since: 20 Dec 2010 Location: Surrey Posts: 360 |
Agricultural and showmen only. Nick
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20th Jun 2014 12:45pm |
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| Mountain_man Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Right side of Offas Dyke Posts: 756 
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Have done it with 2 14 tonne silage trailers, empty, on the way to a job. Thank goodness I didn't have to back up in the lanes!
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20th Jun 2014 2:53pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443  
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I did it once with 3 small artic bale trailers, it was all right but had to pull over when a lorry was trying to overtake, there was literally no road left! Then when I went to turn into the field they were too much for the gateway, had to drop them off and take them in individually
Saying that I was loading the back 2 without unhitching and without tying myself in knots. We reckoned the whole lot measured around 100'  |
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20th Jun 2014 3:09pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17363 
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As stated above, no, sorry, it'd be fun.
Unless you're ag or showman registered, or operating under Crown exemption, it's illegal. |
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20th Jun 2014 5:28pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Denby haulage tried it....once.
 Click image to enlarge Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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20th Jun 2014 5:43pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232 
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 ! Oh we'll, suppose I will have to do two journeys.
Thanks for replies. What is meant by Agricultural registered? Is it a special qualification on your driving licence like showman or something else? I have two holding numbers for the land I will be going back and too from and it will not be for Hire or Reward. I just want to transport wastage from trimming of trees and hedges to my farm to burn. |
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20th Jun 2014 6:16pm |
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| rustyboxx Member Since: 08 Oct 2012 Location: Poole Posts: 548
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Well at least you won't need a waste carrier's licence if you produce it yourself
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2007 110 XS DCPU - An itch that needed scratching 2005 90 Td5 XS CSW - Utterly brilliant 2001 Discovery 2 ES Auto - A phase I went through 1996 90 Tdi CSW - Uber reliable 1989 90 2.5 Petrol Hardtop - My first proper Landy 1985 Range Rover Vogue V8 -Troublesome |
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20th Jun 2014 6:19pm |
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| rustyboxx Member Since: 08 Oct 2012 Location: Poole Posts: 548
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Oops, double post 2015 90 XS CSW TDCi - Beautiful
2007 110 XS DCPU - An itch that needed scratching 2005 90 Td5 XS CSW - Utterly brilliant 2001 Discovery 2 ES Auto - A phase I went through 1996 90 Tdi CSW - Uber reliable 1989 90 2.5 Petrol Hardtop - My first proper Landy 1985 Range Rover Vogue V8 -Troublesome |
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20th Jun 2014 6:20pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443
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Agricultural purposes........agricultural products, agricultural registered/taxed towing vehicle plus limited speed.
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20th Jun 2014 6:35pm |
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| barbel jim Member Since: 12 Dec 2012 Location: Northants Posts: 1421 
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Got pulled a few years back, Tractor, 2 silage trailers and the van on A frame.............. Back then it was max 2 pivot points and 67 feet max train length
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20th Jun 2014 6:43pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 728 
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There's no such thing as a "showmans licence" or even a catorgry on your licence! It becomes similar to agricultural if the stipulations are met. I'm no expert and can't quote the full stipulations but I believe in agricultural the motive vehicle has to be agricultural registered as such and subject to speeds etc. Showmans vehicles are also subject to similar rules ie taxed as showmans vehicle, the driver only needs to be licenced for the type of vehicle (class1 or C+E) as it is for hire or reward, also subject to speed limits. I have had experience of heavy haulage though where depending on the size they become categorised STGO either 1,2,3. Under cat 3 (the largest) your prime mover (front truck) becomes a locomotive, ballasted and with many pivots within a "train" of load and potentially several vehicles. All movements need to be notified to the authority's and escorted with ridiculous speed limits that are never enforced. Basically for you it's going to be two journeys to keep within the law 
Make me think of this 
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20th Jun 2014 7:22pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 728
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He only got picked up by overall length! Not the pivot points hat off to the guy  A pioneer within the industry.
My dad used to run this as the second pivot (a 5th wheel) couldn't be parted unless by mechanical means ie a welded bolt in the locking handle:-
P.s maybe that is a way for SMB to carry out the movement  pin the first NATO hitch and place a spot weld on the pin. Formerly mao99999
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20th Jun 2014 7:40pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232
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Mao99999, thanks for posting the photos. That was exactly what I was thinking. Good to know it can/has been done.
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20th Jun 2014 8:13pm |
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