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Joe the Plumber



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It would be fairly easy to weld two pieces of curved steel onto the open brackets on the bulkhead to make them into a complete loop. Then the bonnet could only be removed by taking the six screws out of the hinges, which would take longer than simply lifting it off.

The biggest problem with this is not making a mess of the paintwork or windscreen with weld spatter, and that one I'm not sure how to get round at present.
Post #323425 13th Apr 2014 9:42am
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munch90



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rivnuts and tamperproof bolts maybe
Post #323426 13th Apr 2014 9:44am
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bpman



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^^ that's a good idea together with a steel wire hooking around the engine lift bracket Thumbs Up

(or loop a steel cable around the bonnet mouldings and thru the engine lift bracket)
Post #323429 13th Apr 2014 10:01am
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ARC99



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Tiger wrote:
With standard hinges they just lift off

Takes me about 30secs to remove my TD5 bonnet on my own Confused


Now I understand how they nick them and why my local indi prefers to work with bonnet off.

Calling Brendan...................I have an order for you. Very Happy


money now spent. Big Cry Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

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IanW



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Shoot this down in flames if you will, but looking at the bonnet release handle under the dash it would be easy to drill it through to the metal bracket behind and insert a self tapper. Might slow the thieves down a little. Or if you don't want to drill holes a suitable jubilee clip around the outside of the handle and through the metal bracket will stop the handle being operated - although I've just ordered some security hinges as well. One wife - livid
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Joe the Plumber



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They don't need to pull the handle to open the bonnet, just reach in and pull the cable from outside in either of a couple of locations.
Post #323481 13th Apr 2014 3:33pm
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AWOL



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Why, oh why, haven't any of the aftermarket guys thought to make the hinges at least as large as the original ones?

There are some really nice looking products, some of which seem exceptionally well made (and priced accordingly!), but most seem to leave at least some filler exposed. The ones posted above with the coded bolt heads sound perfect, but then then you look at the finish left around them...

Surely it must be one of the simplest (and most obvious) things on earth to do if you're making them from scratch to ensure the footprint is the same or a whisker larger in all dimensions???
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Agree AWOL. in fact they could be more than a whisker larger as long as the holes are in the correct places and then they would definitely cover any paint damaged/absent areas when the originals are removed. Exactly the same as the door hinges. Whistle LANDYWATCH

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leeds



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The original Land Rover bonnet hinge is of cast metal design and is produced in tens of thousands per year.

The after market hinges are made in hundreds of units per year.

The original hinge has been designed so that it rises up from the bonnet to the hinge pin and is shaped to go around the bulkhead curl. The bonnet is painted after after the hinges have been fitted leaving an unpainted portion of the bonnet corresponding to the curl shield of the original cast bonnet.

Distance between the bonnet and the hinge curl is not great. Yes there are potential solutions to covering the small unpainted area of the bonnet but that is at a cost of £££'s

Now people complain about the cost of the hinges as they are!

So choice is a vastly increased bonnet hinge price, so lower demand which pushers prices up more or buying a small paint touch up pen??!!




Brendan
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Cuthbert



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Jonno wrote:
...... if we all stopped buying "questionable" parts from ebay etc maybe the problem would eventually go away....


Can't say I've ever bought any Defender parts off eBay - "questionable" or not - so the "we" certainly doesn't include me.
Post #323587 13th Apr 2014 10:08pm
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AWOL



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leeds wrote:

So choice is a vastly increased bonnet hinge price, so lower demand which pushers prices up more or buying a small paint touch up pen??!!


Being serious, how much more do you reckon the first option would cost someone to do?

Suspect I'm not alone in not wanting to look at touch up pen on an otherwise pristine £20k+ vehicle.
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shaggydog



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Just an idea- why not supply a touch up pen with the bonnet hinge so that you can touch up the area around the hinge but also might give insight into what colours are most often targeted?

Just a thought.

Worryingly this is what mine look like without ever being removed Shocked


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munch90



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if someone took the time to design a hinge surely it would make sense to make sure it fits properly without leaving the undercoat showing or have to touch in by hand with a brush !!!!
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Joe the Plumber



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As the bonnet has to be lifted right up to remove it from the hinge brackets, I'm quite surprised security product manufacturers haven't concentrated on stopping it being opened in the first place rather than on changing the hinges.
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All those who lack the apparent ability or desire to cope with a small amount of touching up and blending in; could you not look to produce a gasket of a suitable material with a footprint to cover the unpainted area, with a bit of thought and application it can b done. There was a time when a lot of Land Rover owners were a fairly adaptable bunch Rolling Eyes Steve.
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