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leealanr



Member Since: 18 Mar 2014
Location: Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Waterless coolant.
Has anyone used Evans Waterless Engine coolants?

I have the new style 4 bar engine grille from Land Rover and they do not recommend fittingbspot lights, but I would like to.

I am therefore looking at how the car can run cooler, there are a range of options whixch can jnclude enlarged intercoller etc, but as a good start, to be able to run cooler in the coolant system may well be agood start.

any knowledge?

alan l.
Post #323769 14th Apr 2014 9:21pm
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landybehr



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by coincidence I recently read an old (donīt recall which issue) LR magazine at a workshop. In it there was an article about the waterless stuff. IIRC there was little difference to be felt by the driver (not that sth was to be expected with a properly working system), while I think he wrote sth. about it actually did run a little cooler on certain conditions.
I also remember an article a 1 or 2 years ago in a german classic car magazine. IIRC the only problem there was, they used it on a Saab 96, the stuff was leaking out. That had to do with the old types of coolant that contained silicates (or whatever) which are no more present on modern coolants anyway. But these silicates create deposits that aid sealing. And the waterless stuff then removed these deposits or wasnīt impressed by them or so. In this very article (5/13 "Oldtimer Markt" - magazine) they concluded it was unfit for classic cars. They were glad everything worked again after turning back to conventional coolant. OTOH I think that Evans do make several types of their stuff and some especially for vintage cars etc. But as you asked for knowledge I will have to leave now .. Smile

In anyway, with a TDCi system it should be plugīnīplay.
I wouldnīt expect any disadvantages, other than costs.
In case nobody else will answer - do a google search before buying.
Post #323820 15th Apr 2014 8:41am
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landybehr



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Wink and in any case you can convert to Stage-One grille, as the difference will not be seen once you hid it behind spot lights ..
Post #323821 15th Apr 2014 8:43am
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leealanr



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Thanks for that.

I know it is ueed in many racing engines, but have no knowledge relating to Land s, will keep looking though.

many thanks.

Alan l.
Post #323965 15th Apr 2014 7:44pm
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munch90



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it may give better cooling , but not lower running temp that is controlled by thermostat
one advantage is the higher boiling point so at normal running temp there is no pressure in cooling system so no load on seals,joints gaskets etc ,also should not be pushed out under pressure if you did get a small weep from pump etc ( but it's bl@@dy expensive to let it leak out )

also no corrosion in system

I've never tried it but seen videos on YouTube , seems good but at that price I'm not so sure
Post #323981 15th Apr 2014 8:38pm
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SGH



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I have Evans Auto Cool 180 in my 2.2 Puma and 300tdi and Classic Cool 180 in my Series 3 Thumbs Up

Doing my Kubota ride on mower this weekend with Auto Cool 180 too...
Post #323984 15th Apr 2014 8:43pm
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Skeggy 90



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I have used it once on an expedition vehicle, the system has to be free from water before adding the Evans product, they supply a special liquid that has to be flushed through the system 2 or 3 times. This is very time consuming to do properly. Once done if you lost some coolant, in an emergency you can top it up with water but you will need to replace the coolant as it will loose its properties. So you will need to carry some Evans around with you in case. In my opinion it is very expensive for the benefits, Probably justifiable if you are going to a hot climate with a vehicle that is heavily loaded or towing a large trailer up mountains.
Post #324006 15th Apr 2014 10:14pm
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