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big steve



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I agree Brendan the bumpers should be gaged before coating as mine has been on my truck less than 6 months and there's powder coating coming off but can't fault the actual quality of the product

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
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jst



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Goodwinch gets my vote, one of my TDS only gets used maybe 3 times a year and works faultlessly each time.

excellent value and reputation.

as a clue to how good they are look at what people are running in comps where the are used hard. TDS is bar far the most common low line electric winch, esp for mid winches. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
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Post #183076 7th Nov 2012 10:23pm
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BigMike



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Another vote for goodwinch. Mine gets used about once a week and I've had it for 5 years with not a single issue. I've serviced it every year. It takes a LOT of abuse.

To look after it I spray the externals (not the drum) twice a year with ACF50. No rust, no issues at all. Highly recommend them and they're bloody good value too.
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BigWheels



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So..going for Goodwinch, bridge type or naked spool (solenoid at side). Any pros & cons for each? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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jst



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bridge type is self contained, some likes the more compact looks, harder to change parts, and you can't remote the solenoids.

open type - looks cluttered with solenoids mounted on the motor, solenoids can be mounted in the engine bay out of the cr*p,, plus its easier to view the rope going on the drum.

the last reason is why i would go for a non bridge version. Cheers

James
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stravaig



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My vote WARN.
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zone30



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Supacat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TtAgDp6VKA

quite like the idea of this - a major issue with drum winches is getting the line to spool on correctly under load as it is nearly always a less than ideal angle you are pulling at.


This is stupid: if you dig this in the ground you'll rip it to pieces. Tge reason current mainstream winches are put IN a bumper is to protect them from impact.
Your ground clearence is reduced to about half when it's vertical.

Not a practical solution for a front bumper winch. Maybe as a top winch or a rear winch for cabbed defender though I think the extra gear will cost you the price of several replacement cables.
Post #257427 9th Aug 2013 7:29am
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Supacat



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I see your point but stupid is perhaps going a little far - hard to rip it off if you are out of the vehicle watching from the front with normal winch linespeeds; maybe in a winch competition but then...

I think at the lowest point it's still higher than your diff.
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smb



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"Stupid" is a bit harsh a word to use!

It is a Prototype so is still in development. It's good to see someone trying to solve a problem and that is what he is doing or has done. Unfortunately, whilst all the effort and imagination will solve one problem it more often than not causes a different problem. I'm sure that will be the next stage in the development.
There are plenty of self spooling devices on the market most being attached through the gearbox and shaft. The problem like with many things nowadays is that people are loosing site of what they should be doing and with winching it is keeping a close eye on what you are attached to, what the rope is doing, how the winch is working and obviously the direction your vehicle is going( assuming you are winching yourself and not others).

The inexperienced have a tendency to think that because you have a device it means you don't need to pay attention to it and this is usually when things go wrong.

It does amaze me in these times of Health & Safety that joe blogs can buy a winch and start using it without training, but that's my moan for today!!
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zone30



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Sorry about the "stupid" part but the rotating is in my opinion the wrong way to go.

I do however see a solution which may work.

Just have the winch fitted like any normal winch.
The gider that goes left an right should have a gutter that can handle a bit of an angle.
Then put a bullbar that can swivel up and down on the bumper.
In the middle of that bullbar on top put 2 gutter wheels so the line is feed to the center of the winch but received from any angle. The gutter wheels take care of left and right, the swiveling bull bar does up and down.

I know a guy who built that setup without the winch gutter and it works perfectly on his 130. He uses it for very tough environments. Next weekend I 'll take a picture of it so you'd know what I mean.
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BigWheels



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I bought a Goodwinch KDS 10 in the end. (Its made in China, Kingone, but I hope Goodwinch waterproofed it!) Rather have black, but its gray. Short spool (100m wire rope), but fits neatly in my LR/Mantec bumper framed by the rubber A bar.

Not used yet, so still neatly wound on its spool.

What do you folks use for ground anchors when there are no trees? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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Supacat



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BigWheels wrote:
Short spool (100m wire rope)


How much Shocked

I've used various ground anchors - old army v bar and steel pins have usually turned out the best and worst was a set of auger type pins.





Click image to enlarge


The Danforth anchor type seem popular and whilst i've seen them demo'd, never used one in anger.

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zone30



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Photo's of the winch bumper
Post #288368 7th Dec 2013 12:07pm
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Supacat



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I like that Thumbs Up
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jst



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BigWheels wrote:


What do you folks use for ground anchors when there are no trees?


Did you sort a ground anchor? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #289885 12th Dec 2013 6:09pm
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