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ibexman



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Warm up in cold weather
I took off the grill and blanked off the rad under the inter cooler on my td5
:and it made not one bit of difference to warm up time Whistle
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grafty99



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
The bottom of the radiator doesn't do a huge amount of cooling I don't think, for best results try a bit of cardboard between the inter cooler and rad at the top, I believe the top is where most of the cooling happens Thumbs Up 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
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Post #289246 10th Dec 2013 7:15pm
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Makes sense: when the engine is cold, the thermosthat is closed and there is no flow of cooling fluid through the radiator.
Therefore warming up time from cold engine is not much influenced.
Only after the engine is at working temperature, it easier to maintain the temperature because of less heat loss through the engine compartment and radiator by restricted air flow. Cheers, Vincent
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Post #289266 10th Dec 2013 8:00pm
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geobloke



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Have you taken your viscous fan off yet? Once a long time ago in an atempt to make my 200tdi 90 warm up quicker I made a rad muff, took the fan off and sealed up the gaps between the bonnet and the wings with old door seals. Think it helped a bit, but not worth the effort.
Post #289271 10th Dec 2013 8:15pm
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
I don't think TD5s work too well with no fan. The old TDIs were ok, but TD5...not such a great idea. 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
Post #289275 10th Dec 2013 8:26pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
I have thought about lagging the heater box under the bonnet to stop it being blasted with cold air.Anyone tried it ? 2005 Td5 90 XS

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Post #289277 10th Dec 2013 8:30pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Have you been reading my mind? I was changing the oil at the weekend and was looking at the heater box and pipes thinking - pipe lagging and foam coat for the heater box. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #289286 10th Dec 2013 8:57pm
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Lou Sparts



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Haha great minds think alike Thumbs Up 2005 Td5 90 XS

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Post #289287 10th Dec 2013 9:00pm
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Laurie



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My TD5 Ninety XS takes about five miles to warm up in winter.
In summer, with the caravan on a motorway it keeps going into limp mode from overheating.
If you've got air-con the radiator's right on the limit of capacity. 
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LandRoverAnorak



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Laurie, that sounds like you've got a problem, to be honest. I tow a big twin axle 'van with my 110 XS and even with four bikes on the roof there isn't a hint of overheating. Mine also takes longer than five minutes to warm up, too. Darren

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Post #289301 10th Dec 2013 9:35pm
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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
I said 5 miles not minutes.
It only blips into limp mode. Just lifting off the throttle momentarily resets it.
I've checked the temperature at which it limps. It's 105c.
I've owned it from 6,700 miles and it's now around 70,000. 
Post #289304 10th Dec 2013 9:40pm
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landy andy



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Agree with LRA, never had overheating issue with my Td5 with aircon.

Andy
Post #289306 10th Dec 2013 9:40pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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Laurie wrote:
I said 5 miles not minutes.

Sorry, my mistake. Nevertheless, it shouldn't go into limp mode just towing a caravan. Darren

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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Its my understanding that the electric fan in front of the radiators of A/C models is supposed to cut in at 28 degrees ambient temperature to assist cooling. 2005 Td5 90 XS

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Laurie



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
I do really use mine.
It does some serious offroading.
It started happening after driving through a load of gloop.
Having given the radiator a thorough cleaning it almost stopped.
It is very difficult to clean the rad properly on an XS. 
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