Sonarmender wrote:

Glynparry25 for your information the Fleet will move to Falmouth and Devonport...

Glynparry25 wrote:

I currently just finished 15 years service and after 6 years serving in the UK I started begging to be posted abroad.... all because of the statement about them doing nothing in the UK (other than things like Olympics)- I was questioning why I joined the Army when all I did was go into work on a daily basis like a regular person. I also as a result have many friends who also say the same form all 3 services (some like the easy money).

My partner still serves and is now basically working 9-5 Monday to Thursday, 9-1 on Friday and in those working days has 2 hrs off a day to do physical exercise and another 1hr for lunch. There the fact that when you deploy you then have to up the hours but soon Afghan commitments will be cut, Belize has closed down, we are out of Afghan soon, Germany is shut down and Cyprus receiving massive reductions soon.

So you are saying it is suitable to move a nuclear submarine fleet into Plymouth? The great thing up in Scotland is that sheep WAY out-number people and there is a larger percentage or military/ employed by MOD there, where Falmouth and Devonport are largely populated by people/ civilians.

For reference:

Garelochhead (closet town to current base) :Just over 1,000 people.

Plymouth (Devonport): Just over 250,000 people.

Falmouth: Just over 25,000 people.

Yes a couple of thousand people will be happy with the new jobs moving to the area, but 90%+ of the local population will be against it. Then there is the cost of building the correct secure areas for storage etc which will be in the tens of millions. On top of that there will then be the security issues of the new locations- the activists are trouble enough in the middle of nowhere in caravans/ tents never mind if they move to a location with near by accommodation. Then there is the impact on tourism in the area.
The fleet will realistically never move- Scotland are probably relying on that being a form of income. It isn't about the physical 'can it fit' but the problems with the local population (they will think they will start growing extra fingers and arms) .

Glyn

Glynparry25 wrote:

I currently just finished 15 years service and after 6 years serving in the UK I started begging to be posted abroad.... all because of the statement about them doing nothing in the UK (other than things like Olympics)- I was questioning why I joined the Army when all I did was go into work on a daily basis like a regular person. I also as a result have many friends who also say the same form all 3 services (some like the easy money).

My partner still serves and is now basically working 9-5 Monday to Thursday, 9-1 on Friday and in those working days has 2 hrs off a day to do physical exercise and another 1hr for lunch. There the fact that when you deploy you then have to up the hours but soon Afghan commitments will be cut, Belize has closed down, we are out of Afghan soon, Germany is shut down and Cyprus receiving massive reductions soon.

So you are saying it is suitable to move a nuclear submarine fleet into Plymouth? The great thing up in Scotland is that sheep WAY out-number people and there is a larger percentage or military/ employed by MOD there, where Falmouth and Devonport are largely populated by people/ civilians.

For reference:

Garelochhead (closet town to current base) :Just over 1,000 people.

Plymouth (Devonport): Just over 250,000 people.

Falmouth: Just over 25,000 people.

Yes a couple of thousand people will be happy with the new jobs moving to the area, but 90%+ of the local population will be against it. Then there is the cost of building the correct secure areas for storage etc which will be in the tens of millions. On top of that there will then be the security issues of the new locations- the activists are trouble enough in the middle of nowhere in caravans/ tents never mind if they move to a location with near by accommodation. Then there is the impact on tourism in the area.
The fleet will realistically never move- Scotland are probably relying on that being a form of income. It isn't about the physical 'can it fit' but the problems with the local population (they will think they will start growing extra fingers and arms) .

Glyn

Devonport has already been upgraded to re-fuel and re-fit the nuclear fleet (safely....if such a word exists in Halliburton/KBR health and safety manual ). So I think it's a bit late for protesting, not arguin with you just sayin.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-...61361.html Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

Glynparry25 wrote:

The Armed forced have a very minimal role back on home soil (about 1% is used for anything)- it isn't like other countries where the Armed Forces are used for a multitude of tasks on a daily basis.

From what I have witnessed of other countries:

Australia: The military actively patrol the seas/ coastlines 24/7.
Cyprus/ Belize: Military patrol the borders and coastline.
Turkey: The military set up road blocks to check vehicle/ personal documents (in addition to police) as well as on the borders.
Georgia, Ukraine: Military are used to assist on border crossings.

We don't do any of that- Yes we will always have threats in places like Gibraltar, FI etc and it is always good to keep an eye on the rest of the world, but if the WHOLE armed forces back in the UK went on holiday for a year do you really think anyone would 'invade' or the country will become unsafe? The world has changed, large armies invading countries has come to an end (In the developed world).

Glyn

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