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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324  
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Their argument is that Scotland would be entitled to a share of current UK-wide institutions, e.g. military, utilities, the BBC, etc. Where it gets difficult is in determining how those shares would be determined. So far, it seems that Mr Salmond is just setting out what he expects to get without any acknowledgement of the reality that they will need to be negotiated and so therefore aren't at all guarenteed. Darren
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27th Nov 2013 5:52pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2760
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a few hit the nail on the head exactly,
think people south of the border are getting sick of a number of scots saying that its all rubbish and our fault and moaning about stuff that we don't actually do, or complaining about things that actually aren't a problem i sense bit of a 'either help be part of the solution or  off'... the last thing we need is a large part of the UK complaining about how rubbish it is and wanting to leave, despite it being no better (all likelihood worse) if they did leave
no doubt if scotland don't get independence the party will blame it on 'the English government' as they so often call it, despite English MPs actually having less power over the UK each than Scottish, Welsh, NI etc since we have less control over those areas would like to at this point express my admiration for the Welsh and N.Irish, as they have actually a worse deal than scotland arguably, but are in my opinion more committed to the UK and the task we all face. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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27th Nov 2013 5:56pm |
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| Sonarmender Member Since: 04 Apr 2013 Location: Guz Posts: 338  
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Umh!
The MoD is the biggest employer on the west coast of Scotland Are they not against nuclear weapons, what will happen then I wonder if they get their independence. As for the English not liking the Scots Bo..ocks, try spending 8yrs at HMNB Clyde to see what the Scots think of the English. But never mind the Royal Navy can then move all their Submarines down to Gods country and leave them to their mislead belief that they can fend for themselves. Happy Days  You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
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27th Nov 2013 6:41pm |
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| v8steve Member Since: 18 Apr 2011 Location: dumfries scotland Posts: 195 
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yeah yeah!!!!
myself i couldn't give a toss what is being said for, or against. as ever we the mere public only hear the headlines and not the whole story. i think we just have to wait and see. i work fulltime live with my partner who works fulltime two kids own house three cars on the road. so it doesn't matter who rules i will lose 110 xs s/wagon s3 swb soft top |
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27th Nov 2013 8:36pm |
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| CarlinAbz Member Since: 15 Sep 2013 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 76 
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I think we should leave this type of discussion to the political pages of the Daily papers and stick to something that unites us rather than something has the potential to create ill feeling amongst the defender community. I'll jump off my soap box now and return to rounding up my Haggis's that are roaming around the garden before they die from the cold.
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27th Nov 2013 8:37pm |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 
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Surely the haggis should have their winter coat by now and be alright outside
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27th Nov 2013 8:39pm |
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| CarlinAbz Member Since: 15 Sep 2013 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 76
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I have only just finished sheering them, the fur is on route to the local bagpipe factory!
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27th Nov 2013 8:44pm |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501
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27th Nov 2013 8:49pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1582 
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I always think politics shouldn't be part of the forum.
We all like defenders on here and should unite us as a big defender2 happy family. |
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27th Nov 2013 9:19pm |
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| iPints Member Since: 15 Jun 2012 Location: SC Posts: 294  
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If Scotland decides to go independent are they going to pay back their part of the national debt?
Also if they want to retain services from the UK then surely they will have to pay for those services? I don't know the ins and outs of this and I apologies for my ignorance but I really don't care anymore. I just get the impression that Scotland wants it cake and also wants a rather nice slice of the UK cake too. The old adage goes united we stand divided we fall............ The fear of death is the most unjustified of all fears, for there's no risk of accident for someone who's dead. Albert Einstein |
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27th Nov 2013 9:22pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1582
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It's like reading the daily mail on here today. Just shows just because you have a defender doesn't make you a good person.
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27th Nov 2013 9:31pm |
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| CarlinAbz Member Since: 15 Sep 2013 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 76
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next it will be.... "which celebs have you seen driving a defender today, post your pictures here"  |
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27th Nov 2013 9:48pm |
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| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 
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Well talking a load of friends from Scotland, none of them want to be independent.
All I know is that if Scotland does get independence, then working up there would be an expat assignment for me so Ł's in  we then just need to to decide what hardship tier it should be 
And just think of all the tax benefits for people that live in England and work in Aberdeen/offshore Russell
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27th Nov 2013 9:55pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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One thing I have noted on here is people talking about a Scottish Armed Forces..... Why do they need one? Equally, why does the UK as a whole need such a large one? It isn't like anyone is going to invade- they have a large oil reserve and therefore the UK/ US etc will have a vested interest in protecting it. The Armed forced have a very minimal role back on home soil (about 1% is used for anything)- it isn't like other countries where the Armed Forces are used for a multitude of tasks on a daily basis. Where will the nuclear fleet be moved to? There are no suitable locations in England/ Wales or N Ireland. Basically they will say that the fleet has to be out by 2018 and then about 1 day later will start negotiations on how much the UK (as it will be) will be willing to pay to keep their naval base there (as the Russians do in Ukraine). Back onto topic: I do agree with comments about them really going independent if they wish to- so own currency, no ties with benefits etc-a clean break, not a complicated half hearted attempt (Like people who leave home.... just 2 houses down from their parents so can still go around for sky sports, meals, lift to the supermarket etc). BBC... of course they can keep it (in their own form), they will still be a part of Britain just like ROI who get BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) just not UK... otherwise it should be called the UKBC. Either way what awesome British TV will they be missing out on? Strictly come dancing? Eastenders? Corrie? Britain's got talent? X Factor?.......... If all those programs were removed from Welsh TV even I would vote for independence
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27th Nov 2013 11:34pm |
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