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DRW58



Member Since: 23 Feb 2013
Location: Perthshire
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Scotland 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Have I Modified My Defender
Hi I have had a galvanised chassis refurb including suspension and brake replacement , but generally with standard parts for insurance purposes would this be classed as a modification?
At what point then are modifications declared?
DRW I built a garage for my Mini
With a place for everything and everthing in its place.
Ten years down the line there's a Mini in there somewhere, and Censored all's where it should be!!!! Ho hum
Post #276144 23rd Oct 2013 7:48pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Technically any part that is not LR made is a modification or non standard items. That would pretty much make all of us the same. I don't see the point personally nearly all parts are actually better hence why we fit them. I think there must only be around 1 in 10 LR's that are so called non modified. TheThunder RollsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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Post #276148 23rd Oct 2013 7:52pm
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BigRuss



Member Since: 15 May 2010
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
It's quite a simple question....

1. Have you enhanced the vehicles performance from when it rolled off the production line? No if you replaced the suspension and brakes for the similar type.

2. Have you replaced the parts on a like for like basis? yes if you replaced the suspension and brakes for the similar type. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #276155 23rd Oct 2013 8:05pm
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DRW58



Member Since: 23 Feb 2013
Location: Perthshire
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Scotland 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Thanks I kind of thought the same but don't want to fall foul of the insurers who would in the event of a claim be just as inclined to refuse it on the basis that some original parts have been replaced.
A couple of new shockers / springs might not be noticed but a shiny new chassis is hard to miss Whistle
The old Compare the Meerkat modification section had the usual stuff for boy / girl racers about wings spoilers skirts etc, but I also noticed beside non standard paint jobs a bit about decals and stickers!!!
As you say most of the work we do to our vehicles is to protect them i.e. steering guards but this could be construed as an intention to lash your landy about the countryside in an irresponsible manner. Big Cry
DRW I built a garage for my Mini
With a place for everything and everthing in its place.
Ten years down the line there's a Mini in there somewhere, and Censored all's where it should be!!!! Ho hum
Post #276165 23rd Oct 2013 8:13pm
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Mdm



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These days I would tell the insurance show them receipts etc and ask for an agreed valuation .

But no I don't think its a mod just refurb
Post #276167 23rd Oct 2013 8:16pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Tell them. A galv chassis alters the risk since it increases the value of the vehicle, can affect repair costs, and may also make it more attractive to thieves.
Post #276204 23rd Oct 2013 9:35pm
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BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
When declaring a remap (performance improvement), are there levels, or would you advise them what the theoretical raised figures are? Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #276408 24th Oct 2013 6:35pm
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GUM97



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey
Yep Galv Chassis is a modification. Apparently (according to my insurers) the galvanised steel is thicker (which it is by 1mm) than standard, and therefore stronger. A structural modification as they called it Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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Post #276412 24th Oct 2013 6:39pm
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custom90



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The question is once declared do they A. Refuse to offer you the policy or B. Not understand what your talking about or C. Charge you even more. TheThunder RollsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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Post #276414 24th Oct 2013 6:42pm
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DRW58



Member Since: 23 Feb 2013
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Scotland 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I suspect a variation of all three but probably the last option, they'll view this as an opportunity to pillage my wallet cos I 've spent cash improving my wheels. Big Cry
Better to declare it now than to risk the alternative.
How bad can it be?
DRW I built a garage for my Mini
With a place for everything and everthing in its place.
Ten years down the line there's a Mini in there somewhere, and Censored all's where it should be!!!! Ho hum
Post #276422 24th Oct 2013 6:54pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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My guess will be it'll be difficult to get someone to offer a policy. When they don't understand what your stating which most likely they won't you'll probably get "unfortunately we cannot offer insurance to you at this time, Sir"
If it's a single thing perhaps there will be less issue but multiple the more they will probably play up.
What gets me is do they really think people will fit inferior parts? I guess they do because a minority perhaps...
There used to be an adage at one time that I'd you were part of a club you may get a discount as you'd be viewed as having a good interest in your vehicle thus keeping it in great condition. That seems to be non existent pretty much.
Then there is extra security, you'd think they'd like that wouldn't you? IMO not that fussed at all really if it's standard security spec or you've got £1000's of extra security layers fitted. TheThunder RollsπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
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Post #276446 24th Oct 2013 7:44pm
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