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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Blue smoke on cold start up
As the title suggests, I'm getting 2-3 seconds of blue tinged smoke on start up when cold.

She's a 2007 puma 110 36,000 mls. Does this sound like worn valve seals to anyone?

I'm booking 3rd service in a few days and will be ready for the usual "oh, they all do it, they're supposed to" crap.

No other loss of oil or symptoms.

Thanks all Thumbs Up
Post #26193 8th Mar 2010 9:18am
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
The first one I had did this and so does the one I have now and that is only a year old. I was told the same Laughing by the dealer Laughing
Post #26199 8th Mar 2010 10:04am
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discocuzzy



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My does this as well Thumbs Up You cannot teach stupid people to do clever things
Post #26210 8th Mar 2010 11:13am
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bob neville



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Same here. Seems worse in the cold weather.

Bob
Post #26212 8th Mar 2010 11:30am
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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Hmm, as I feared. However I've only really noticed it lately. I have told Mrs 110SEB it's her fault for not always waiting for the glow plug light to go out before starting the engine.

What damage would that actually cause other than wasted fuel?
Post #26213 8th Mar 2010 11:37am
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fekete



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Put some diesel cleaner throw her it may help Thumbs Up
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Post #26215 8th Mar 2010 12:21pm
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johnnyturbo2002



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Hey gang,
I had an old mercedes 300D that would smoke black started up or not, and the old German mechanic ( boy was he a work of art) would always say, all smoke is fine, as long as it isn't oily looking...blue oily looking... but I wonder now, since we are all dealing with Euro 4 engines, if the changes in diesel as well as the advancement in technology gives us the blue- ish smoke and that it really isn't much to worry about.
Has anyone compared it to the t4's in the transit vans? I have some here at school that I will ask the drivers tomorrow to see if they smoke as much as what we get.
Anyone know a taxi driver to ask? 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately)
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Post #26245 8th Mar 2010 4:06pm
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dgardel



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little blue smoke duringcold climate engine start up it's normal, it is unburned diesel (yessss it is blue too) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #26272 8th Mar 2010 6:23pm
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pjw4233



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
I only get blue smoke if I forget to let the plug heater light to go out before turning engine over.
Post #26906 15th Mar 2010 4:48pm
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AndrewS



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Our vehicles do this, some days its worse than others.
Post #26912 15th Mar 2010 5:15pm
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SJM



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Mine does it - 09 model with 2500 miles on it. Always has. In for a service next week so will mention it, but I'd always assumed this is normal....?
Post #28143 26th Mar 2010 4:30pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
if its colder ambient than normal mine does this on first startup of the day but then clears, as above i put it down to unburnt diesel Cheers

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Post #29043 5th Apr 2010 3:14pm
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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Stealers suggested to SWMBO that it was doing it because she does small journeys. From what I can see, an assumption based on the fact that (a) she is a woman, and (b) we have a little one. She put him right as it rarely does less than 25 miles in one go.

They're going to contact LR and a few other LR mechanics to see what they think. You know what's going to come back, don't you... They all do it, it's normal!
Post #29060 5th Apr 2010 8:08pm
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tomdaprince



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Netherlands 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Hi 110SEB, have you ever heard a cause from the stealers after they contacted JLR?
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Arran73



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Mine does it as well, wondering if on or more glow plugs are not working will have to test them 1997 Defender 90 300tdi
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