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miket



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Heated windscreen problem
If it's not one thing (stolen doors, knackered adaptor shaft...) it's something else...

My heated windscreen has stopped working in my MY09 110XS - the light on the switch comes on/swiitches off and the 30A fuse in the main fusebox is okay, but there screen clearly doesn't, well, clear.

Is there anything else I can easily check (any relays anywhere?) or do I need to buy and learn how to use a multimeter?

Mike
Post #253173 23rd Jul 2013 7:43am
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could be the relay(s) lower drivers side fuse box, the front screen elements are in two halves (L/R) 2.4 90 XS
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Post #253177 23rd Jul 2013 7:52am
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Post #253185 23rd Jul 2013 8:20am
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miket



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Laughing

It's the humidity (ie rain) causing condensation on the windscreen. I thought the heated windsreen would clear it, but no joy at all.
Post #253188 23rd Jul 2013 8:29am
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pjb



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sorry only joking - humidity in a land rover - what ever next Very Happy

on a serious note have you checked the connection to the screen to see if any electrical output sometimes it may simply have come loose
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Post #253192 23rd Jul 2013 8:35am
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schuee



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If you have a multi meter you could try a continuity test, on my old TD4 Freelander had the same problem and it was the spade connector plate which was soldered to the window had come off, though I didn't notice it until I looked at it more closely, anyway the garage said I would need a new rear windscreen, so I fixed it myself with some conductive epoxy resin all sorted for about £5.
Post #253209 23rd Jul 2013 10:15am
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miket



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Hi

I'm still planning on sorting out my non-functioning heated windscreen but my need for a new starter motor took priority for a while...

Anyway, can anyone kindly confirm which is the relay fpr the heated windscreen under the seat, and what the part number is so I can order one? Lastly, where's the best place to get one?

Many thanks

Mike
Post #257354 8th Aug 2013 8:34pm
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ZeDefender



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Presumably you've stuck a multimeter between the purple wire and earthed to the body? Sorry if I missed something... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #257396 8th Aug 2013 10:40pm
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miket



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Okay, I've bought a simple multimeter and tried it out. I get approx 14V on the passenger side end when the switch is on. Oddly, I get nothing on the driver's side end. A continuity test across tbe screen gives nothing and so presumably this indicates that there is a break in element in the screen?

If there is a break, that's a shame because I've just had the dealer repair the windscreen surround under warranty, which included resealing the screen. I guess the only way around it is a new screen [reaches for hammer]?

At least I've learnt the basics about using a multimeter!
Post #257753 10th Aug 2013 4:36pm
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Not necessarily a new screen at all.....

If you can identify where the break is and if it's on the element you could try this....Worked for me in the past.... Thumbs Up

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Post #257755 10th Aug 2013 4:49pm
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ZeDefender



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I've got a pretty good dealer and they still broke 5 elements when reinstalling the screen Rolling Eyes

So with the engine running, the switch on, the passenger side (+) screen wire connected and the driver side (-) disconnected, when you connect the multimeter between the driver's screen connector and earthing to a frame bolt (not using the connecting earth wire as this could be the fault) you get absolutely nothing?

*edit* Do you mean the front windscreen? In that case the elements are buried in the glass and can't be repaired Sad Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Post #257795 10th Aug 2013 8:03pm
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miket



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If I connect the meter as you suggest above I get absolutely nothing. There is a live feed and the earth works okay (I get 14V when I connect across them with the meter).

There is a small chip in the windscreen but presumably this would only knock out one or two elements at worst? It also wasn't the recent warranty work because it stopped working before this was done.

Mike
Post #257881 11th Aug 2013 10:27am
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ZeDefender



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It really does sound knackered then - there must be a major break somewhere Sad
As K9/schuee suggest, if either of the connecting tabs is broken/come unsoldered, you can do something. Otherwise Big Cry Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Post #257921 11th Aug 2013 12:39pm
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D'MARIQUE



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Good day, mates!
Has anyone met such a problem?

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The left side of the windscreen doesn't warm properly... A part remains cold even after some time... Neutral
The heating strings are OK, nothing torn/broken or smth Rolling Eyes
Is it possible to fix somehow or to replace only?
Post #276536 25th Oct 2013 8:12am
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miket



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Update

It turns out my windscreen had failed because of water leaking onto the contacts from through the LH corner of the windscreen. I've had the corrosion finally repaired under warranty, and this included having the windscreen replaced.

D'Marique, I'm afraid my screen went from fully working to fully not working. Sounds like some of the elements in your screen aren't getting any current and sounds like a replacement job.

Cheers

Mike
Post #276569 25th Oct 2013 11:25am
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