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megatoad



Member Since: 07 Jan 2012
Location: Hertfordshire
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Congratulations in coming back to the Land Rover fold.

I think you will need a roof rack to put the spare three children on as you have no seats in the back Rolling with laughter

Mine has 9 seats, but no kids Thumbs Up He who dies with the most toys wins Smile

Defender 90 & 110, S1 80", Disco 1, S111 88
LRSOC & CVLRC
Post #231351 29th Apr 2013 8:21am
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Kraut



Member Since: 28 Dec 2011
Location: Westphalia
Posts: 336

Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
[quote="Kitoper"]
Kraut wrote:
That looks nice, they have even put some Scheelmanns in, very good choice!

Please make sure you push the sticker of the badge on the back very firmly onto the rivnut-plate, otherwise it will come off very rapidly, took only a few visits at the carwash and it was gone! Used it for my other 'love' instead.


Good morning Kraut,
It looks like you have a nice truck too Smile

Thank you for the advice and already done. The seats I have in the hunter have a label underneath marked Greiner, so I l looked them up and found they come from here:
http://www.bielkine.de/greiner.html

I would like to contact them and ask them if they can make two additional single seaters face to face seats that fold up after the safe.

I don't expect them to road worthy but when on a hunt putting a two people on seats in the rear, rather then on the wheel well would be nicer.

do you know the Greiner seats?



Scheel-Mann is a brand of the company Greiner, who manufacture high end seating furniture medical seats, wheelchairs. The Seats have always been an alternative to the standard LR seats, especially before LR brought the SVX seats manufactured at Recaro. I have the Scheelmanns in leather with electric heating for two and a half years now, very very pleased with them. You don't need longer seat rails to sit comfortable, because the needed console provides you already with longer rails.

http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/

They do have a special range of seats for the Defender, from basic with cloth, to leather, heated pneumatic massage and so on. Just take the following link to have a look


http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/fileadmin/CONTE...ion_DE.pdf

ooooh, sorry, for our english speaking friends!!!!::::

http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/fileadmin/CONTE...ion_EN.pdf


..and in case they can't help with the 7-seat-solution, someone here in the forum found another very good solution:


[URL=][/URL]


.

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Post #231418 29th Apr 2013 1:08pm
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Geneva
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familymad wrote:
Nice seats. Sadly I need the 6&7 seats but would prefer some guns in there!!


Hello Familymad,
the 7 seat solution was a thought at the beginning because of my family size, but I finally went with the 5 seat as, even 7 seats is not enough for my family - we need a Viano for transporting everyone Smile As I typically bike to work, the Defender is not rational, but a pure childish action all the way down to the number of seats, and at least now when I go hunting, my guns will be safe Smile The safe is actually very useful and will be used for more than just hunting equipment.
Post #231459 29th Apr 2013 3:23pm
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Geneva
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megatoad wrote:
Congratulations in coming back to the Land Rover fold.

I think you will need a roof rack to put the spare three children on as you have no seats in the back Rolling with laughter

Mine has 9 seats, but no kids Thumbs Up


Thank you Megatoad - I wonder if the roof rack would be EU compliant if I use it as a people carrier Smile 9 seats, that is a dream defender Thumbs Up
Post #231460 29th Apr 2013 3:25pm
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megatoad



Member Since: 07 Jan 2012
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 358

United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Kitoper wrote:
megatoad wrote:
Congratulations in coming back to the Land Rover fold.

I think you will need a roof rack to put the spare three children on as you have no seats in the back Rolling with laughter

Mine has 9 seats, but no kids Thumbs Up


Thank you Megatoad - I wonder if the roof rack would be EU compliant if I use it as a people carrier Smile 9 seats, that is a dream defender Thumbs Up


If you bought an old Series 11/111 109 then they were 12 seaters, but judging by my old one I think your children would take you to the Hague for violation of human rights due to how uncomfortable they were Wink

The 9 seaters have four inward facing seats at the rear, but these are now banned in the EU for carrying people due to the innefective nature of lapstraps when the passenger is travelling sideways.

That is why the last row of seats in the 110's and 90's had to become forward facing with headrests and 3 point seatbelts. He who dies with the most toys wins Smile

Defender 90 & 110, S1 80", Disco 1, S111 88
LRSOC & CVLRC
Post #231463 29th Apr 2013 3:35pm
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
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Switzerland 
[quote="Kraut"]
Kitoper wrote:
Kraut wrote:
That looks nice, they have even put some Scheelmanns in, very good choice!

Please make sure you push the sticker of the badge on the back very firmly onto the rivnut-plate, otherwise it will come off very rapidly, took only a few visits at the carwash and it was gone! Used it for my other 'love' instead.


Good morning Kraut,
It looks like you have a nice truck too Smile

Thank you for the advice and already done. The seats I have in the hunter have a label underneath marked Greiner, so I l looked them up and found they come from here:
http://www.bielkine.de/greiner.html

I would like to contact them and ask them if they can make two additional single seaters face to face seats that fold up after the safe.

I don't expect them to road worthy but when on a hunt putting a two people on seats in the rear, rather then on the wheel well would be nicer.

do you know the Greiner seats?



Scheel-Mann is a brand of the company Greiner, who manufacture high end seating furniture medical seats, wheelchairs. The Seats have always been an alternative to the standard LR seats, especially before LR brought the SVX seats manufactured at Recaro. I have the Scheelmanns in leather with electric heating for two and a half years now, very very pleased with them. You don't need longer seat rails to sit comfortable, because the needed console provides you already with longer rails.

http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/

They do have a special range of seats for the Defender, from basic with cloth, to leather, heated pneumatic massage and so on. Just take the following link to have a look


http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/fileadmin/CONTE...ion_DE.pdf

ooooh, sorry, for our english speaking friends!!!!::::

http://www.greiner-gmbh.de/fileadmin/CONTE...ion_EN.pdf


..and in case they can't help with the 7-seat-solution, someone here in the forum found another very good solution:


[URL=][/URL]


.


Thank you Kraut, nice seats - because I have the safe, I was thinking of something that resembled the seats out of Discovery 1. The Greiner link is fantastic and my seats are exaclty the ones in the link, heated, full black leather with green stitching. You have been very helpful. do you know if any seat covers are made for these seats:?:

Today with some advice from Ericvv, I decided on the Nakatanenga spare wheel carrier. Slowly but surely, my truck is becoming road worthy :)

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Post #231466 29th Apr 2013 3:43pm
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Kraut



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Germany 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Very welcome Kitoper!

Haven't heard of any seat covers, maybe you should call them at Greiner
Post #231482 29th Apr 2013 4:31pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
[quote="Kitoper
..and in case they can't help with the 7-seat-solution, someone here in the forum found another very good solution:


[URL=][/URL]


.[/quote]

Thank you Kraut, nice seats - because I have the safe, I was thinking of something that resembled the seats out of Discovery 1. The Greiner link is fantastic and my seats are exaclty the ones in the link, heated, full black leather with green stitching. You have been very helpful. do you know if any seat covers are made for these seats:?:

Today with some advice from Ericvv, I decided on the Nakatanenga spare wheel carrier. Slowly but surely, my truck is becoming road worthy Smile[/quote]

since my name gets dropped here... I like the solution suggested by Kraut here for the alternative 7-seat solution. What I see in Kraut's picture probably would not be considered as real additional seats but just some padding, and might keep your vehicle fully road legal and in line with your Swiss 5 seater registration and comply with your insurance. At the same time some hunters could easily use this as temporary seating off the beaten tracks... Looks a nice alternative to think about :thumbsup:

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Post #231483 29th Apr 2013 4:31pm
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Kitoper



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ericvv wrote:
[quote="Kitoper
..and in case they can't help with the 7-seat-solution, someone here in the forum found another very good solution:



.


Thank you Kraut, nice seats - because I have the safe, I was thinking of something that resembled the seats out of Discovery 1. The Greiner link is fantastic and my seats are exaclty the ones in the link, heated, full black leather with green stitching. You have been very helpful. do you know if any seat covers are made for these seats:?:

Today with some advice from Ericvv, I decided on the Nakatanenga spare wheel carrier. Slowly but surely, my truck is becoming road worthy Smile[/quote]

since my name gets dropped here... I like the solution suggested by Kraut here for the alternative 7-seat solution. What I see in Kraut's picture probably would not be considered as real additional seats but just some padding, and might keep your vehicle fully road legal and in line with your Swiss 5 seater registration and comply with your insurance. At the same time some hunters could easily use this as temporary seating off the beaten tracks... Looks a nice alternative to think about Thumbs Up[/quote]

Good point Eric.
@Kraut - I am assuming this is your truck Smile - any suggestions on where I could go to get something similar done?
Thank you in advance.


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Post #231530 29th Apr 2013 7:30pm
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Kraut



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No, it's not mine. After hanging around here in this forum for a while you will be able to promptly recognize that it's a 90 on the picture! Razz

Maybe you should go to an upholsterer, cholse a leather matching your seats and get a unique pair including the small leather backrests made for you
Post #231555 29th Apr 2013 8:12pm
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
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Kraut wrote:
No, it's not mine. After hanging around here in this forum for a while you will be able to promptly recognize that it's a 90 on the picture! Razz

Maybe you should go to an upholsterer, cholse a leather matching your seats and get a unique pair including the small leather backrests made for you


After seeing all you helpful posts, I looked at your galleries last night and saw that a 90 was not in your stable Smile

I have sent an email to Greiner to find out if they have any seat covers and will keep you posted.

As it was difficult to find, I put the link to the Nakatanenga spare wheel carrier here:
http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/article_R...RRHNAHI%26
Post #231694 30th Apr 2013 10:44am
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
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Switzerland 
After a few days without my Defender I am happy to have her back. While she was away she received a Dinitrol Treatment and I have posted some pictures in my gallery https://www.defender2.net/gallery/index.php?cat=14071.

The treatment was done by Leu Carrosserie & Spitzwerk AG in Biel-Benken, Switzerland http://www.leu-ag.ch/ . Living in Switzerland you tend to expect quality, but I must say that my expectations were surpassed. The attention to detail and the cleanliness of the truck when picking it up was beyond anything I thought I would receive. I was given a complete tour of what was done, (every rivet, crook, cranny, chassis and joint was done). I was given a 6 year guarantee requiring 2 checkups within the 6 years and I was given instructions as to what to do over the next few days as I drive the vehicle and the dinitrol continues to dry.

I was accompanied by Eric to take my truck in for the treatment, in fact Eric graciously accepted to drive me back from the garage after dropping it off- (that is Defender Comoraderie). I will post a few pictures of our drive up to the garage as Defender driving in Switzerland on the pristine roads and mountainous scenery is worth sharing.

If you are a Defender owner in Switzerland, neighboring France or Germany, I can only say that the Garage Leu, who was recommended by the Dinitrol importer in Switzerland is the place to go.

A few pics, more in my gallery.


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Post #239461 29th May 2013 11:35am
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Arran73



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Nice, do they speak English or French?, just trading in my old RHD 90 for a 2008 110 so may have that done, or can it only be done on new landys
Post #239466 29th May 2013 11:58am
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Kitoper



Member Since: 07 Dec 2012
Location: Geneva
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Arran73 wrote:
Nice, do they speak English or French?, just trading in my old RHD 90 for a 2008 110 so may have that done, or can it only be done on new landys


Hello Arran, they speak German primarily, French is spoken too and a little English. They can do on all Landys although the guarantee does not have the same applicability as on the new ones. If you have it done on an old one, they recommend bringing it in the spring. They will desalt it, clean it and then treat it. Michel is the person who helped me and gave me all the necessary advice there. The car was then treated by Guillaume.

The price is very reasonable too.
Post #239482 29th May 2013 1:49pm
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pagoda



Member Since: 07 Jun 2011
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
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Beautiful Defender...really classy..

For the jump seats in the back, in the spirit of the ones posted by Kraut, try to contact these guys in Geneva- they work very well, know what they are doing, albeit a bit pricey:

http://www.luxhous.com/

If it's not too much to ask, how much was the dinitrolling in Biel? PM ok as well, if you prefer..

I have a 20 year old Puch GD I would like to have sorted out..

Cheers, e. LC HZJ76 2014
Post #239684 30th May 2013 11:55am
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