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WelshGas



Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
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Wales 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Brake Pads
At last service under warranty, the Dealers said I would need my disc pads changed before next service and quoted over £400 for parts labour and VAT.
The local indy has quoted approx £150 for parts and fitting using Ferodo pads and new fitting kits. He can get other makes if I want. Anything wrong with Ferodo? as he swears by them and has been in the business for 50 yrs or so and specialises in Land Rovers and general servicing of all makes, and he owns a number of Land Rovers and is well used by the locals. Looked after my wife's MX5 doing a good job each year Thumbs Up LANDYWATCH

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Birdy



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Unlike many on here, I’m the world’s worst at anything mechanical. I can use a screwdriver (changing bulbs is no challenge for me!) and a voltage tester, that’s about it.

But, even for a numbtie like me, changing pads really is that simple - the hardest part for me is lifting the wheels on and off (I suffered a mild stroke a couple of years ago).

Punt around for genuine OE pads at best discount price, and do the job yourself. Think of the satisfaction you’ll have!

Peter
Post #222317 26th Mar 2013 2:38pm
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Diablo



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Nothing wrong with Ferodo pads at all.
Post #222322 26th Mar 2013 2:57pm
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custom90



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EBC are worth a look. Mine need changing as well and I was thinking of going for EBC Greenstuff. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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geobloke



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custom90steve wrote:
EBC are worth a look. Mine need changing as well and I was thinking of going for EBC Greenstuff.


I am just about to fit my second set of EBC Green Stuff pads. The first set were very good and worked very well with the standard LR discs, however the last set I bought were Delphi pads and were also very good. In fact the 110 stops brilliantly, much better than the Discovery and almost as good as the Mini...

Changing the pads on a Defender is really very easy and made much much easier with one of these - http://www.diseno-art.com/products/tools/b..._tool.html - this was a revolution for me, easy and precise.
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custom90



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geobloke - Good to hear about EBC.. Thanks the the link also I never knew there was a tool specially for that. The link is through Amazon USA though. Shall have to have a look round on-line later for somewhere in the UK. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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WelshGas



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Wales 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
I know Birdy, but my question was about Ferodo pads compared with OE pads which the dealer wants to charge almost £200 for a set.
As far as whether I do the job myself or ask the Indy, then that depends on my time availability and if the item is mission critical or not. My 90 is my daily drive but more important I think is building a good rapport with local businesses , like my local Indy, because if he doesn't stay in business then I would be left with the dealership only. I could do the pads but 1 annual service at a dealers would wipe out any savings made and be far more costly in the long run when something beyond my capability comes along. Whistle LANDYWATCH

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custom90



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WelshGas - £200 is far too much if that is just the price of the pads only? If it's not just for the pads only then please ignore me. Genuine from Shukers or Duckworts are around £118 a set or so all in INC VAT & Delivery so £200 is way way to much. EBC Green's are around £80 - £90 a full set and EBC Ultimax around £60 a full set. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Diablo



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Just looks like a glorified G-cramp?
Post #222352 26th Mar 2013 4:22pm
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WelshGas



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That's right custom90steve. £126 for front and £87 for rear + fitting kits. Needless to say I will not be purchasing them from the dealer. As long as Ferodo are upto scratch then I will go with my Indies recommendation. Whistle LANDYWATCH

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Post #222358 26th Mar 2013 4:41pm
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landy andy



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£150 for pads and discs fitted, is a good price. Go for it.

Ferodo pads are fine, much better than EBC. They are the first pad I have taken out and thrown away before they wore out. They don't work when cold they can easily be overheated and then take ages to deglaze, and if you are lucky they may be ok in the middle bit. Not that good for the most exspensive pads.

Andy
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geobloke



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Diablo wrote:
Just looks like a glorified G-cramp?


And it is, but it pushes the pistons back in perfectly straight and all the way back. With it I can change all the pads within an hour give or take. There are so many tools out there, but this one does what it says on the tin as they say.

Best £15 you'll spend this week on your Defender - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laser-5093-Brake-P...amp;sr=8-4

And incidentally a set of EBC pads should only set you back about £30 a set, Lockhead or Mintrex pads IIRC are about £7 a set. If you are going to do this it is also well worth replacing the retaining pins and springs at the same time.
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custom90



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Not sure if it's any help. But Opie Oils sell the Ferodo brand. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The only argumant I have in favour of genuine is that they are the only ones I have yet found that don't squeal like a banshee on braking after a few months (the genuine pad kits come with new antisqueal shims whereas most non-genuine ones don't, which is fine if your current ones are OK to reuse). I seem to recall that the genuine kits come with new pins as well.

On the Defender you don't actually need any kind of piston retracting tool since the pistons will simply push back into the caliper. Use a prybar (preferably, alternatively large screwdriver) *carefully* and do one piston/pad at a time. On the front calipers with twin pistons you can either use an old worn pad to push both pistons on one side back at the same time, or use two bars/levers. Don't just push one piston back without holding the other in place though, because the one you're not pushing will come outwards. I tent to use the old pads, or small pieces of wood of the appropriate thickness, to hold the pistons in place as required.

It really is a very simple job indeed, easier to do than to describe.
Post #222369 26th Mar 2013 5:44pm
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landy andy



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Best pads I have found that don't squeal, are TRW pads. I am sure I have read these could be the manufacturer for land rover, not sure, but they were the only pad I could fit in my old callipers that did not squeal.

Andy
Post #222374 26th Mar 2013 5:57pm
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