x-isle wrote:

They are great, but as already mentioned by Pam, no good for me if I needed to tow as I've got an SW so won't be type approved.

x-isle wrote:

The spacing on the tow bar plate is different to the spacing on the cross member, so thats a no no.

Back on the hitch pin then. I notice there's a 5000kg version that has a 4 bolt flange.

Anyone either know if the plate on my tow bar is spaced for a 4 bolt flange? Or know what the bolt spacing is so I can measure it?

It looks similar?

x-isle wrote:

Hypothetically (now that's a big Friday word!) thinking.......

I've been looking at some rear recovery point options. Not that I hope to ever get that extreme that I'd need pulling out, but you never know......

I have a standard (Witter, I beleive) tow pack, but don't have the ball fitted. I don't plan on removing it, but was thinking of bolting a Swivel Shackle point on. My tow bar bolts to the bottom 2 of the 6 cross member holes and the Shackle point probably won't squeeze onto the top 4, therefore. Do you think that it would be good/strong/safe enough to bolt on top of the tow bar using the 4 mounting points? Therefore, 2 in the cross member and 2 in the tow bar bracket. Hope that make sense.

Here's the photos of the Swivel Shackle point and my 110 showing the tow bar setup.

That swivel should fit using the four tapped holes above your tow bar - thats where they are designed to fit.


Click image to enlarge John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

x-isle wrote:

Thanks John, that's what I want but I think it will foul the top of the tow bar.

Thinking out loud, I could fabricate a plate to space it out flush with the tow bar!

Andy Jeff wrote:

Found some pictures!





HTH.

Andy.

I really like that, sturdy without taking much away from the departure angle.

LandRoverAnorak wrote:

The 3.5 tonne figure is only a legal capacity (for a trailer with overrun brakes) rather than a physical limit. The bracket will be good for a lot more than that in the real world. Also, JATE rings only use the same mounts as the lower stays on the tow bar.

Something mounted directly to the crossmember may be ultimately stronger, but only if a proper spreader plate is used. Anything that relies only on the existing threaded holes won't be any stronger than a standard tow bar, which uses the same of similar mounting points and stays back to the chassis rails.

Yes having more points of contact can be beneficial, but when talking about a how hitch rated to a trailer capacity of 3.5 tons it is only talking about the forces involved whilst towing a trailer on a suitable surface- a 3.5 ton trailer won't put more than about 500ish Kg of force on the tow bracket- if it did you would start to lose control of your truck and most likely end up on your roof depending on the angles involved. I have seen a lightly loaded sankey trailer (total weight of about 1 ton) take a 110 over with little effort.

When towing a trailer it is a steady load on a specified area from a specific direction and angles- this is not the case when doing recovery. You want the recovery point as close to the chassis as possible- as with all the recovery brackets above is basically a few mm away from it.

But I also don't see any point in keeping a tow plate on a truck if it will never be used for towing....... Would be safer to just fit a recovery point or a class 3 receiver for recovery purposes.

Glyn