sparkylee wrote:

Ok after driving for the first time in the dark tonight since buying my DC in march
I now need recommendations for the best LED headlights

sparkylee wrote:

sparkylee wrote:

Ok after driving for the first time in the dark tonight since buying my DC in march
I now need recommendations for the best LED headlights

Right if this is now finished !!!!!!!
Am I right in thinking everyone well almost everyone agrees that JW Speaker LEDs are a fantastic improvement over the standard and worth the money

ericvv wrote:

SteveG,
Out of curiosity, I know that in several other EU countries, amongst which figures Germany, these Speaker 8700 and 8700EV headlamps are offered in the aftermarket as direct replacement for the original H4's and invariably all these suppliers in these EU countries confirm that they are fully roadlegal for our Defenders in their countries.
Do you mean that all those suppliers are twisting the truth then? That would be risky business, the fallout could be very high for them, even put them out of business, if numerous complaints would start to build.

SteveG wrote:

ericvv wrote:

SteveG,
Out of curiosity, I know that in several other EU countries, amongst which figures Germany, these Speaker 8700 and 8700EV headlamps are offered in the aftermarket as direct replacement for the original H4's and invariably all these suppliers in these EU countries confirm that they are fully roadlegal for our Defenders in their countries.
Do you mean that all those suppliers are twisting the truth then? That would be risky business, the fallout could be very high for them, even put them out of business, if numerous complaints would start to build.

Hi Eric

I have no idea about other countries, I have just been talking about the UK. I also, I did not set out to prove that the JW Speaker headlamps are illegal. I merely was looking for formal documentation to say they are legal.

Nothing more than that, no malicious intentions at all.

Cheers

Steve

To be honest no matter how I read

"Just an FYI, LED headlamp units are just as illegal as HID lamps in uk if not fitted with self levelling and washers"

I cannot find within that how you asked that question

SteveG wrote:

ericvv wrote:

SteveG,
Out of curiosity, I know that in several other EU countries, amongst which figures Germany, these Speaker 8700 and 8700EV headlamps are offered in the aftermarket as direct replacement for the original H4's and invariably all these suppliers in these EU countries confirm that they are fully roadlegal for our Defenders in their countries.
Do you mean that all those suppliers are twisting the truth then? That would be risky business, the fallout could be very high for them, even put them out of business, if numerous complaints would start to build.

Hi Eric

I have no idea about other countries, I have just been talking about the UK. I also, I did not set out to prove that the JW Speaker headlamps are illegal. I merely was looking for formal documentation to say they are legal.

Nothing more than that, no malicious intentions at all.

Cheers

Steve

mobilecentre wrote:

To be honest no matter how I read

"Just an FYI, LED headlamp units are just as illegal as HID lamps in uk if not fitted with self levelling and washers"

I cannot find within that how you asked that question

SteveG wrote:

mobilecentre wrote:

To be honest no matter how I read

"Just an FYI, LED headlamp units are just as illegal as HID lamps in uk if not fitted with self levelling and washers"

I cannot find within that how you asked that question

Hi Tim

You seem to like taking quotes and then applying a different context to them. I provided justification behind that initial post. Current UK Vehicle lighting legislation states that it is only legal to fit filament headlamps. The only exceptions formally given by DfT to this are for new EU type approved vehicles and for retrofitting in accordance with their guidelines. As these are the only formal communications on this matter by the DfT, it justifies my initial post.

If your counter arguments that E approval trumps UK law, then retrofitting HID e approved headlamps without self levelling and washers would also be legal. This does not appear to be the case. There is also no formal communication from DfT that LED headlamps approved to ECE R112 are also accepted as an exception to the current legislation. Therefore statements that they are legal to retro fit without self levelling and washers is an assumption not fact.

That's all I was merely pointing out. No hidden agenda or malicious intent or posts. In view of this, I resent the insinuations that I was acting like a troll and attacking people. It seems bizarre that I'm accused of these actions, but its ok for you to keep posting, accusing me of having no proof, inconsistency etc etc without any comment on your behaviour.

You can have the last word as I won't post anymore.

Cheers

Steve

Do dft officers go around stopping cars and checking headlights? If its only mot stations, vosa and police officers that check cars then I think the e stamp on the lights will be fine and you won't get carted off to Guantanamo bay and your car crushed