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| NoDo$h Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset Posts: 972  
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You guys kept me up last night. 
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22nd Nov 2012 7:37am |
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| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678 
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Damn ! The new FCX headlight washer kit isn't going to make me a millionaire after all ....
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22nd Nov 2012 7:53am |
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| SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 659 
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Hi Ken This was my first post...
In the eyes of the law, this is correct as there is no legislation that changes 1989 Vehicle Law. DfT have made the exception for retro fit if fitted in accordance with their guidelines and for new cars there is EU type approval. So unfortunately my 'sweeping statement' was and is still correct. Tim has since stated that for JW Speaker lights in particular he has a similar exception from VOSA, and this goes further to say they don't need headlamp washers or self levelling. So with this formal exception in hand I'd be happy to fit the JW Speaker headlamps knowing they were legal. So from my point of view it's been a worthwhile exchange. Cheers Steve |
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22nd Nov 2012 8:59am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Quite a debate there.....Ultimately I am happy to re-announce my Defender passed it's MOT a few months ago as I am sure several other forum members have with LED headlights fitted. It's not as if it is one of the 'covert' fitments to fool the tester either, so thought then it wasn't an issue. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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22nd Nov 2012 11:30am |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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As did mine
Then I sold her |
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22nd Nov 2012 11:35am |
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| SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 659
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Unfortunately passing an MOT means nothing for legality, as has been proven a number of times. As an example, you could fit tyres that extend past the wheel arches and pass an MOT as they are not tested. However, you'd fail a type approval test and its illegal to do this. MOT is just an annual roadworthy test, it's not a type approval road legal test.
Personally with headlamps I wouldn't fit any that weren't proven to be legal. It's all too easy to have an accident, caused by another driver, however they claim they were dazzled by your headlights. If they were deemed to be illegal, the police would be coming after you and worst case if there was a fatality you could facing manslaughter charges. All hypothetical of course, but still possible. Anyway, as Tim stated the JW Speaker headlamps have an exemption, so my example is irrelevant in this case. Cheers Steve  |
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22nd Nov 2012 11:54am |
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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044 
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Or you could just stick with the standard ones, then you know you'll be right
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22nd Nov 2012 12:27pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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22nd Nov 2012 12:28pm |
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| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459 
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22nd Nov 2012 12:35pm |
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| adafish Member Since: 30 Mar 2009 Location: atherstone Posts: 1381 
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TIM.................Do you do LED bulbs ?
I'LL GET ME COAT.. Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull.. |
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22nd Nov 2012 5:19pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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SteveG the ECE homologation is dominant
JWS LED headlamps is ECE R112, for the law are the same as the bulbs one...... Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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22nd Nov 2012 6:40pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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...must...find...alcohol....... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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22nd Nov 2012 7:11pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Hic
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22nd Nov 2012 8:47pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Beer? Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
IID Pro MV License |
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22nd Nov 2012 9:52pm |
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