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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505   
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I use QT diff guards and can highly recommend them
 don`t waste your money on the type that clamp to the diff pan as they fall off when hit |
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19th Aug 2009 8:11am |
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| sasha2001 Member Since: 02 Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand+ russia Posts: 206  
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Do not forget the fuel cooler guard and handbrake guard also
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19th Aug 2009 8:16am |
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| Coko Member Since: 31 Jul 2009 Location: Searching... Posts: 29 
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Thank you chaps. And what would you recommend on the tank guard?
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19th Aug 2009 9:02am |
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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505
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I don`t have a tank guard
the tank is tucked up out of the way unless you start using your Landy as a challenge truck |
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19th Aug 2009 9:14am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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I have fitted
Mantec Steering guard (£140) 
Southdown Front axle guard (£150)
D44 Fuel cooler guard (£30)
D44 Transter box/ handbrake guard (£50)
Mantec tank guard (£120) (Fits with NAS rear step)- I would have liked to have gone for the southdown item.
I will be fitting a Qt rear axle guard when funds premit. Glyn Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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19th Aug 2009 9:17am |
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| Coko Member Since: 31 Jul 2009 Location: Searching... Posts: 29
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Thank you chaps... :thumbsup:
So I asume that there is no point of spending £200 on two equipe wraps when I can have it for £80 from qt, is there? :roll: |
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19th Aug 2009 10:57am |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513 
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Most important guards are steering (that'll be the bit you break first) and front diff.
Diff QT guards are great - they allow you to properly isolate the diff but they'll reduce ground clearance by an inch or so. They're also quite a lot of money. A bolt-on diff pan guard for the front can be picked up for under £20. Admittedly not as secure as the QT ones but better than nothing. You won't get a pan-covering one for the rear of a puma so you'll need to buy a QT guard if you want one there (not as key as the front because chances are you'll have punched your front one out before you hit the back (unless you're rock crawling). Steering Main choices are: Steel or Aluminium With holes in it or without For a winch bumper or not With integrated recovery eyes or not. My guard was from Paddocks IIRC at around £90. I went with Aluminium (around £10 more but lighter - maybe) with built in recovery eyes for a non-winch setup. Some of them are modular to allow you to fit to winch bumpers at a later date. Holes vs no holes is personal choice. Some say holes allow mud to pass back through and prevent it becoming a plough in a rear recovery. Some say mud never passes through anyway but at least they can use a solid guard as a skid and not a cheese-grater when going over lumps. Mine has holes, which encourages my son to post stones through. Some people will also recommend dan bars or something similar as an alternative to a big guard. I've no experience of those but I'm sure they're also pretty strong. Others Personal choice and a decision around cost and weight. They're not light so you could easily add 100kg of permanent weight by going whole hog. Ironically you'll need the guards more as you sink further into the mud  Depends what you use it for really. I'd love to think that mine was protected from field mice firing small arms but I'm unlikely to really need it. For greenlanes you'll be pretty well covered with steering and diff guards. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition |
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19th Aug 2009 12:07pm |
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| BigGeorge Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Zurich Posts: 43  
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it always depends on the intended usage.
On the Defender 110 I have steering guard and that's about it. A fuel cooler guard is something to consider especially when driving in the woods/forests. I guess the engneers brain were turned off when choosing the location 
On my Jeep I have a big sort of pan protecting transmission and engine/oil sump. It certainly helps when doing serious offroading (use it for fun competition) but it also attracts all sorts of dirt and stones / pebbles. When pebbles are stuck between transmission box and guard you get nice vibrations. The other day I was cleaning the underbody and found a big piece of "rock" about 10 inch by 5inch by 5inch sitting on the guard. Don't want to know what would have happend to the one driving behind me when doing 60mph if it fell off the guard. and as mentioned before... wheight is always an issue. (That's probably the main reason for D3 getting stuck when we still manage the incline, even though they have the smartest electronics built in) George The goons are trying to bring me down! Defender 110 SW MY10 useless piece of  ... but I like her
Defender 90 V8 50th Anniversary Series IIa 109 / 6 cyl. ex-fire truck |
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19th Aug 2009 1:04pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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After previous experience both through fun and work I have gone out of my way to protect all vunerable parts of the 110, and that is why I have gone all out. If I were to either do all my time on the road or just green lanes yes a steering guard and axle guards would be ok....BUT if you want to do a little more or long distance why take the chance?
As for cost and weight- compared to the price of what the guard protects it is pennies, and 100Kg on a 2 ton car is nothing. You could save more weight by removing all the items you don't need in the car. Glyn **I fitted the transmission guard after the day out in Sailbury plain. When cleaning the car after I found huge amounts of mud and grit jammed between the transfer box and the hand brake- if it was a rock rather than mud it could have easily spoilt my whole day. |
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19th Aug 2009 1:15pm |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513
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100kg is around 15% of the total load-carrying capacity of a standard 110. That's quite significant. Admittedly it is low down but you still don't want to add unnecessary mass. I agree, however, that if you're doing anything more extreme then it always pays to be cautious. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS + New Defender 110 First Edition |
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20th Aug 2009 8:27am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015
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Weight bolted to the axes will not be included in the carrying weight as it is weight on the axles only- not the suspension (my axle guard is the heavyist item of protecion on my car (almost as much as all the other items together). Glyn |
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20th Aug 2009 9:50am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5035 
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Sprung and Unsprung weight has different effects - but any weight on the car has a massive difference.
Just get in one with nothing in! Mike |
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20th Aug 2009 6:46pm |
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| sasha2001 Member Since: 02 Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand+ russia Posts: 206
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Diff guards Used the clamp on ones for years, just did a tiny spot weld so it did not move and survived a few hits on the TD5 and good on the Puma also
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20th Aug 2009 7:08pm |
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| deep down Member Since: 02 May 2012 Location: France Posts: 204 
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An old thread but seems the right place to post.
Just bought this, from N4. 8mm Aluminium, I bought this one as it covers the brake drum, the only downside is that it reduces the ground clearance a little, we'll see how it performs. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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