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spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4658

Always use first gear.I keep pressure on the gear stick to keep it to the left and get a smooth change in to second gear. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
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15th Jan 2009 8:16pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6298

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

spudfan (and all)

thanks, I'll try keeping pressure to the left for a smooth change. Up til now its either been a very slow change (almost like double clutching) or a slightly less than smooth change.

17th Jan 2009 9:09pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

If some of you have been using 2nd it's no wonder some of you get through so many chutches

I always use first after all if you need to pull out that quick is it a good idea anyway?

17th Mar 2012 12:03pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

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17th Mar 2012 1:07pm

Zagato
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Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Billingshurst West Sussex
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I used to use 2nd in my TD5 but always use 1st in the TDCi. Think TDCi has lower first gear than TD5 so that makes no sense

If you pull away on a very steep hill and take the usual time to change from 1st to 2nd look in your mirror and watch the car behind have to slow down before they run in the back of you

17th Mar 2012 1:25pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

Zagato wrote:

If you pull away on a very steep hill and take the usual time to change from 1st to 2nd look in your mirror and watch the car behind have to slow down before they run in the back of you

Maybe they won't be so close next time

17th Mar 2012 1:56pm

ericvv

Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

1st of course... Just to get going, and smoothly (meaning slowly) change to 2nd once reaching 10 kph (6mph)... The gearbox is not made to pull away in 2nd. Doing so you invariably will be slipping the clutch more than is needed. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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17th Mar 2012 2:02pm

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

this is part of the issue of running a utility vehicle that's capable of towing 3500kg as a daily / unladen drive.

2 nd's a tad to high but if you pull away with slip on the flat or slightly down hill its great, trying to get a flyer in a defenders wrong! 1st with higher tyres would be spot on i'm guessing.

with a caravan / car trailer / plant trailer etc the lowish first makes perfect sense, great for maneuvering and just list the clutch with no throttle and away you go.

You need to try drivin all day in low box like we did in Wales recently 3rd Low was low! 4-5-6 geting you up to 20 mph

17th Mar 2012 2:03pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

Clutch slipping = clutch wear and reduced life. Done on a regular basis won't last long I doubt

17th Mar 2012 2:04pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

I always use first gear in my 110, unless I'm on a downhill but even then I find 2nd a touch too high. Thats with 235 tyres. I wonder if those who pull away in 2nd are in 90s with 205s on?

17th Mar 2012 2:48pm

T1G UP

Member Since: 08 Dec 2009
Location: Bath
Posts: 3101

do they still do 205's on a puma?

17th Mar 2012 2:56pm

defender4

Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: South East London
Posts: 411

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

i will only use second if I'm on a down incline. I'm uncomfortable about not using first. I was taught to always use all the gears going up or down through the box.

17th Mar 2012 6:42pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

defender4 wrote:
i will only use second if I'm on a down incline. I'm uncomfortable about not using first. I was taught to always use all the gears going up or down through the box.

I was taught to jump gears but I don't in the Defender it's risky and to be honest there often isn't point. I prefer to go through the gears.

17th Mar 2012 6:47pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

T1G UP wrote:
do they still do 205's on a puma?

Sure, you still see farmers 90s on 205s.

17th Mar 2012 7:12pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Never used 2nd to start away, always do 1st to get in motion. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

17th Mar 2012 7:17pm

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