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vaucluse



Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
Gearbox / Clutch Chatter in Neutral
Hi Guys,

I was wondering if someone could shed some light on wher the problem may lie with my 110 SW (2007 Puma) - When I pull up to the lights and take it out of gear and release the clutch, there seems to be a chattering type of noise coming from under the floor after 5 or 6 seconds. When I depress the clutch it goes away.

Any ideas?

Many thanks in advance.

Mark
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iruffell



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Clutch / dual mass flywheel are shot, just had mine replaced under warranty with exactly the same symptoms.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The Puma doesn't have a dual-mass flywheel, but these are classic symptoms of the usual fault with the early Puma driven plate. Does your vehicle have the original clutch?

You will need to change it sooner rather than later since if it fails altogether the collateral damage will make the repair a lot more expensive.
Post #122969 10th Feb 2012 11:48am
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vaucluse



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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
blackwolf wrote:
Does your vehicle have the original clutch?

You will need to change it sooner rather than later since if it fails altogether the collateral damage will make the repair a lot more expensive.



Unfortunately I have no idea - I would assume so only because the vehicle has only done 25K. Any ideas what's that likely to cost?


Mark
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bpman



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vaucluse wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Does your vehicle have the original clutch?

You will need to change it sooner rather than later since if it fails altogether the collateral damage will make the repair a lot more expensive.



Unfortunately I have no idea - I would assume so only because the vehicle has only done 25K. Any ideas what's that likely to cost?


Mark


less if you get it into the dealer/garage/indy before it all lets-go and fails
Post #122988 10th Feb 2012 12:29pm
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
My 07 110 did two clutchs in 14k miles (no towing)
Post #123007 10th Feb 2012 1:42pm
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Later clutches have been improved from the early poor ones Thumbs Up Shouldn't have any probs once it has been swapped over Very Happy
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
When I had mine changed last year it cost £750 + VAT at a main dealer, that included the complete clutch plus the slave cylinder.

The good news is that the current design of clutch is vastly better than the original, and you probably won't have the problem recur once a new type is fitted. The other good news is that, if yours is anything like as bad as mine, you will find that it really does make a huge difference to the driveability of the car, it will be a vast improvement. It doen't seem quite so painful when the improvement is that marked.
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Happyoldgit



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If the vehicle has a full service history I would be tempted to try to get LR to contribute to the cost for what is after all a known fault. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
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vaucluse



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Miserableolgit wrote:
If the vehicle has a full service history I would be tempted to try to get LR to contribute to the cost for what is after all a known fault.


That would be great but what's the chances?
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vaucluse wrote:


That would be great but what's the chances?


You won't know until you try, what have you got to loose? Smile Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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Post #123063 10th Feb 2012 6:14pm
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blackwolf



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vaucluse wrote:
Miserableolgit wrote:
If the vehicle has a full service history I would be tempted to try to get LR to contribute to the cost for what is after all a known fault.


That would be great but what's the chances?


Somewhere between zero and absolutely none if my experience was anything to go by!
Post #123151 10th Feb 2012 10:40pm
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ZeDefender



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Germany 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
Check out the handbrake drum - binding and rattling shoes when hot in idle are apparently a "known" problem to LR. Mine has it after a nice motorway run cruising in neutral up to the lights. It's particularly bad if I "flick" out of second into neutral with the clutch depressed. When it happens, try pulling the handbrake up just a little - if it's like mine it should stop.

HOWEVER, after LR failed to sort mine out, I'm still to be convinced it isn't the gear/transfer box.

If you get it fixed, please let me know how. I will do the same Thumbs Up

Good luck,
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Post #123168 11th Feb 2012 1:52am
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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
I have now developed these symptoms but they're not all the time. I'm going to get a quote from Lookers and my Indy.

Bloody British car parts.

Has anyone used Mr Clutch for a Defender? I assume they'd need to use OEM.
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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
£874 all in at Lookers Chelmsford.
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