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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Does anyone know just how cold it can be outside (parked) before a Defender "fails to launch"?
My Puma sounded a bit rough at -22ºC this morning (soon ran fine after a couple of minutes though)... Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 7:50am |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Many thanks
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 8:23am |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5009 |
I concur (always wanted to say that )
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6th Feb 2012 10:51am |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
My last (TD5) Disco sounded awful after a prolonged (2 days) stop at -16.
The fuel pump made an awful noise trying to get to grips with the diesel which would have been turning to wax. Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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6th Feb 2012 11:55am |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Well, I was wondering this morning about a "rhythmic grunt" every few seconds - thought it might be the diesel pump or something. Does "modern" diesel really get so waxy down at -20? If so, doesn't stuff get knackered? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 12:07pm |
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BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 |
As we've said on here before, modern diesel will start to wax at -9 C ish but in some contoured they run winter mixes but dependant on where you get it from you probably can get a tank of summer diesel in the dead of winter. Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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6th Feb 2012 12:12pm |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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6th Feb 2012 12:13pm |
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BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785 |
Russell 2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
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6th Feb 2012 12:14pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
I can just imagine the reaction from the Neanderthal running the local garage when I ask him what CFPP value his diesel has
Wish me luck, it's been nice knowing you all p.s. and thanks for the info Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 12:27pm |
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party monkey Member Since: 31 Dec 2010 Location: Oxon. Posts: 1311 |
German winter spec diesel has to be no 'warmer' than -7 deg C Cloud point and -22 deg C CFPP (Cold filter plug point). Some German co-mingled systems require a marketing spec of -25 on CFPP.
By comparison UK winter spec cloud is no 'warmer' than -5 Deg C and CFPP is -15 deg C . Scandi countries from memory start from about -20 cloud and -30 CFPP but could well be even lower than that Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless. |
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6th Feb 2012 1:13pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
So if it gets much colder here, I'll need to by my fuel from Norway Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 1:50pm |
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party monkey Member Since: 31 Dec 2010 Location: Oxon. Posts: 1311 |
Go for Finland.... no warmer than..... -29 cloud / -34 CFPP Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless. |
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6th Feb 2012 2:30pm |
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TheTechnobear Member Since: 28 Jan 2011 Location: Guadix, Spain Posts: 54 |
I got caught out here in southern spain (in the mountains) 2 days ago,
we hit -9 at night (for a couple of nights), 110 wouldnt move, probably waxed up...would idle at about 1k, but no more. Eventually managed to get it into the sun, it warmed up, then would go, albeit with some initial misfiring. My FL wouldnt even turnover. Lived in switzerland for over 9 years, never a problem so i will now always park in the sun when its going to get cold, im assuming they dont bother using winter fuel here. |
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6th Feb 2012 5:20pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
As a matter of interest, can you add anything yourself to depress the CFPP (i.e. something commercially available)? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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6th Feb 2012 7:06pm |
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