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ZeDefender



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Xcelsius wrote:
There were recalls due to the units and fires.

Thanks for the brilliant info, especially the article.
WON'T be installing one of those then Whistle
Aren't Terrafirma a pretty good company? Seems strange they would be distributing them Confused
Time to explore other options... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Laurie



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ZeDefender wrote:
Time to explore other options...

Pilkington self cleaning glass......?

http://www.pilkingtonselfcleaningglass.co.uk/
Post #113482 8th Jan 2012 1:57pm
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ZeDefender



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Laurie wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:
Time to explore other options...

Pilkington self cleaning glass......?

http://www.pilkingtonselfcleaningglass.co.uk/

Er... most of the time I need to clear the screen of Censored is at night Rolling Eyes Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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Xcelsius



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ZeDefender wrote:
Xcelsius wrote:
There were recalls due to the units and fires.

Thanks for the brilliant info, especially the article.
WON'T be installing one of those then Whistle
Aren't Terrafirma a pretty good company? Seems strange they would be distributing them Confused
Time to explore other options...


I don't have my 110 delivered yet, so I was waiting for that to happen before I chimed in on the site. But I figured people would want know the history of these things. They might have fixed the issues, but if they did, they haven't announced anything and they aren't selling them in the states as far as I know.
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landy andy



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Most of the time the fluid will freeze in the pipe or nozzle, not the bottle. So if you remove the one way gave in the line, the fluid will just run back to the bottle, so remains unfrozen. Just will take longer to get spray to the windscreen. I understand that you don't get the defrosting properties, but heated screens are made for that.


Andy
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BigRuss



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Laurie wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:
Time to explore other options...

Pilkington self cleaning glass......?

http://www.pilkingtonselfcleaningglass.co.uk/


Not self cleaning but just ultra smooth so dirty cannot stick in the imperfections Thumbs Up Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
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Sticky



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Got one of these fitted in my Patrol and it works really well, that having been said it is true that the water tends to freeze in the pipes before it gets to the jets.

There were lots of questions when it was released about whether windscreens could crack and I seem to remember seeing an article that explained about the surface area and heat dissipation that suggested it would be impossible to crack a screen.

I installed it as far up the system as I could and whilst it might initially take a while to work its way through frozen pipes it does seem to clear them.

I haven't fitted one in my Defender though because of the heated screen, although there is something very satisfying about watching steaming hot water thrown across the windscreen and clearing the ice in a few seconds.
Post #113603 8th Jan 2012 7:58pm
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ZeDefender



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Just fitted mine... almost upside down Thud
Lovely warm water cleans a grubby/buggy screen beautifully Thumbs Up
Now I'm eager to test it in Winter... but let's have Summer first, shall we? Laughing

No fires yet but I've got an extinguisher in the cab, just in case Wink Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Glynparry25



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Re: Heat Shot washer heater
ZeDefender wrote:

http://www.brookwell.co.uk/item/8152/heat-...ter-heater


£150!!

Another option:

Route the washer pipe along side coolant pipes and use copper to attach it (good heat conductor).

Use a good quality additive to the washer fluid- makes one hell of a difference.... even with heated water- if you hit about -20 to -30 the water in the pipe/ nozzle will freeze and heater or not it won't defrost it for a while.

Glyn Dog Sheep
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ZeDefender wrote:
Xcelsius wrote:
There were recalls due to the units and fires.

Thanks for the brilliant info, especially the article.
WON'T be installing one of those then Whistle
Aren't Terrafirma a pretty good company? Seems strange they would be distributing them Confused
Time to explore other options...


ZeDefender - what made you change your mind ?

Glynparry25 wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:

http://www.brookwell.co.uk/item/8152/heat-...ter-heater


£150!!

Another option:

Route the washer pipe along side coolant pipes and use copper to attach it (good heat conductor).

Use a good quality additive to the washer fluid- makes one hell of a difference.... even with heated water- if you hit about -20 to -30 the water in the pipe/ nozzle will freeze and heater or not it won't defrost it for a while.

Glyn Dog Sheep


I like that idea .. have you modded your truck ? any photos ?
Post #149508 10th Jun 2012 2:15pm
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T1G UP



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use 8mm nylon and wrap it around in a spiral fasion.

you can use 8-10mm microbore copper aswell by you'll need compression fittings where as with nylon you can use push fit connectors
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ZeDefender



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Re: Heat Shot washer heater
Glynparry25 wrote:
Use a good quality additive to the washer fluid- makes one hell of a difference.... even with heated water


Always do that anyway with Winter and Summer-additives Thumbs Up (really surprised some people don't).
However, even the best Winter additive-fluid goes "goopy" at -15 and below Sad

I like your elegant solution, although I guess the engine would have to warm up a bit in Winter before it would work? Certainly great once going - might do it as well Wink

For the extreme conditions I'm looking for, I'm pretty sure the Heat Shot will clear the screen of ice immediately at -20 and stop the "goop problem" on the autobahn...

Cheers
Matt

p.s. changed my mind after talking to suppliers and checking out the more recent info - the number of actual failures, even of the original versions, were tiny (it's even in question whether just GM's wiring was at fault).

See: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/06/h...re-fiasco/

... also I'm just curious Whistle

p.p.s. I'll let you all know if I regret my decision and die... er, forget that last bit Wink Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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cobs



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Had mine wired up for a year and a half now - haven't died yet! Thumbs Up
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ZeDefender



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It was your thread I followed Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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yup I can vouch for Vodka working very well Cool

Just use the no-brander cheap stuff
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