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Small Clanger



Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
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Cheap condoms.

In tatters in seconds. And she was'nt exactly tight either Sheep
Post #108489 19th Dec 2011 6:32pm
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SGH



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Zagato wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DEFENDER-90-110-130-WING-TOP-HEATER-SCOOP-AIR-INTAKE-PAIR-LR106BG-/260894108836?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D260900200994%252B260900200994%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5001910616072129614

Looked like a right knob with one on each wing Rolling Eyes


Get a pair of these and look a bigger knob http://www.flatdoguk.com/stainless%2Dsteel%2Dair%2Dscoops%7E281 993 Varioram - Guards Red
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Post #108496 19th Dec 2011 7:29pm
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ZeDefender



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SGH wrote:
Get a pair of these and look a bigger knob http://www.flatdoguk.com/stainless%2Dsteel%2Dair%2Dscoops%7E281

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Post #108503 19th Dec 2011 7:39pm
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Bobble



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Merlin wrote:
Wonderful for greenlaning (and no doubt parting the pedestrians in a crowded high street)

Now they're really not legal. Whistle ......
Section 40A Road Traffic Act 1988 as amended by the Road Traffic Act 1991 wrote:
“a person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle.... on a road when.... the condition of the vehicle..., or of its accessories or equipment.... is such that the use of the motor vehicle.... involves a danger of injury to any person.”


And before anyone gets clever and says a Land Rover involves danger or injury even before the wires are fitted, that's covered under type approval.

Speaking of which and just to add to the debate, manufacturer-fitted/supplied roof lights are ok on the basis they've been type approved, hence alot of LGVs have 'em.
I just don't see the need for roof lights. How dark does it have to be for the normal lights plus a couple of A-bar spots not to be enough? Or just slow down a bit maybe?
They're like winches. Most get fitted in the quest for some sort of kudos without any real clue as to how and when they should be used for best effect.
Post #108506 19th Dec 2011 7:43pm
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ZeDefender



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Bobble wrote:
Merlin wrote:
Wonderful for greenlaning (and no doubt parting the pedestrians in a crowded high street)

Now they're really not legal. Whistle ......
Section 40A Road Traffic Act 1988 as amended by the Road Traffic Act 1991 wrote:
“a person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle.... on a road when.... the condition of the vehicle..., or of its accessories or equipment.... is such that the use of the motor vehicle.... involves a danger of injury to any person.”


And before anyone gets clever and says a Land Rover involves danger or injury even before the wires are fitted, that's covered under type approval.

Speaking of which and just to add to the debate, manufacturer-fitted/supplied roof lights are ok on the basis they've been type approved, hence alot of LGVs have 'em.
I just don't see the need for roof lights. How dark does it have to be for the normal lights plus a couple of A-bar spots not to be enough? Or just slow down a bit maybe?
They're like winches. Most get fitted in the quest for some sort of kudos without any real clue as to how and when they should be used for best effect.

I made a winch assembly that fits to my towbar (yes, I admit I have a caravan Rolling Eyes )
No kudos there - when I hitch it on I look a right tosser Laughing Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #108513 19th Dec 2011 7:51pm
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BigMike



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ben_j85jty wrote:
Just show's what a broad church we are - everyone has their own opinion of a worthwhile mod.

I like roof lights, and even with a white bonnet never had an issue with glare. They came in handy in the desert both on the one occasion I drive at night (to rescue one of the guides) and when we hit a fesh fesh plain. The only reason I didn't get rear ended was because I put my rear too mounted spot on.

And I found the vent cover really effective at improving the ventilation on a 200tdi.


Then again, you thought fitting a kenlowe was a good idea, so forgive me if we don't put too much stock on the above Wink

and WTF kind of guide did you have if you had to go and rescue him in the dark? Rolling with laughter
Post #108523 19th Dec 2011 8:12pm
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BigMike



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Bobble wrote:

I just don't see the need for roof lights. How dark does it have to be for the normal lights plus a couple of A-bar spots not to be enough? Or just slow down a bit maybe?
They're like winches. Most get fitted in the quest for some sort of kudos without any real clue as to how and when they should be used for best effect.


Bloody right. Utterly ridiculous.

Roof lights fine if you work for border patrol on the US/Mexican border, or fine if you work in mining and move equipment, even fine in the bush in australia to search out kangaroos. However, not much use in Tesco's car park in Dorking on a Friday in December. Then again, it is as you say: "I have bought a defender, therefore I need A: a winch, B: rooflights.
Post #108525 19th Dec 2011 8:15pm
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Bobble



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BigMike wrote:
"I have bought a defender, therefore I need A: a winch, B: rooflights.

C: Air intake snow cover.

Wink
Post #108529 19th Dec 2011 8:21pm
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T1G UP



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Post #108530 19th Dec 2011 8:22pm
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BigMike



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Don't get me started Rolling with laughter
Post #108531 19th Dec 2011 8:22pm
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RFT



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Post #108532 19th Dec 2011 8:25pm
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ZeDefender



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Bobble wrote:
C: Air intake snow cover.


Well, I thought it might be useful Rolling Eyes Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #108538 19th Dec 2011 8:39pm
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noworries4x4



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The worst mod i ever did was put a heavy duty 110 sailsbury rear axle on my racer (under the guise that i wont be able to break that in a hurry) Then i found out what unsprung weight was all about. Dire almost undriveable at high speed on the rough. Now got a very light casing with detriot locker and hd shafts and lightened hubs. Miles better

Mods on my 90 all used every week, especially the winch and the work lights. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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Post #108546 19th Dec 2011 9:11pm
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ben_j85jty



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BigMike wrote:
ben_j85jty wrote:
Just show's what a broad church we are - everyone has their own opinion of a worthwhile mod.

I like roof lights, and even with a white bonnet never had an issue with glare. They came in handy in the desert both on the one occasion I drive at night (to rescue one of the guides) and when we hit a fesh fesh plain. The only reason I didn't get rear ended was because I put my rear too mounted spot on.

And I found the vent cover really effective at improving the ventilation on a 200tdi.


Then again, you thought fitting a kenlowe was a good idea, so forgive me if we don't put too much stock on the above Wink

and WTF kind of guide did you have if you had to go and rescue him in the dark? Rolling with laughter


One that a very well known Land Rover Magazine (for owners, internationally) place their trust and magazine space too.

Regarding the kenlowe, I agree, it didn't work, but the vents did! 2002 Defender 110 DC
Post #108564 19th Dec 2011 10:13pm
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ben_j85jty



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BigMike wrote:
Bobble wrote:

I just don't see the need for roof lights. How dark does it have to be for the normal lights plus a couple of A-bar spots not to be enough? Or just slow down a bit maybe?
They're like winches. Most get fitted in the quest for some sort of kudos without any real clue as to how and when they should be used for best effect.


Bloody right. Utterly ridiculous.

Roof lights fine if you work for border patrol on the US/Mexican border, or fine if you work in mining and move equipment, even fine in the bush in australia to search out kangaroos. However, not much use in Tesco's car park in Dorking on a Friday in December. Then again, it is as you say: "I have bought a defender, therefore I need A: a winch, B: rooflights.


It could be argued you don't need a Defender for a Tesco car park in Dorking on a Friday in December, but we all seem to have one! 2002 Defender 110 DC
Post #108565 19th Dec 2011 10:16pm
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