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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 |
2.4 Puma Definately not!!!
Somebody else with similar concerns here: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8982.html?highlight=dpf
Wrong forum I think most people drive Defenders on this site! Nevertheless I have a little time on my hands today and have used Google (wonderful tool) and it appears the DPF is a standard fit on VW Caddys, both MPVs and Vans...See under 'Performance' 'Engine Specifications' and 'Engine and Transmission' respectively. http://www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/caddy-ran...fications/ http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/volkswa...absection1 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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10th Dec 2011 9:54am |
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pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
dpf is really nothing to worry about, you just need to drive it like you stole it for 15 mins if the light comes on.
Pom |
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10th Dec 2011 11:37am |
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Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507 |
Like he said .. just need a good 'blow through' And as K9F says, no DPF fitted to 2.4 Puma's ..... the latest spec 2.2 though will have a DPF Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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10th Dec 2011 2:39pm |
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Waldo Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Bit South of Manchester Posts: 240 |
I agree with Dave, 2.2 Defender definitely does have the DPF.
I either read or watched something explaining how it was mounted as close to the engine as possible to heat it up rapidly on very short journey like those farmers often have Will Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg) |
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10th Dec 2011 2:45pm |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8021 |
2.4 DPF - No
2.2 DPF - yes i think you may well find just driving it hard for 15mins may not necessarily work on the LR ones Pom. it has to be a min time above a set road and engine speed, if you dont do it on time or drop speed below the threshold it wont regenerate. RRV have proved quite problematic on this front. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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10th Dec 2011 6:40pm |
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Jas Member Since: 08 Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 23 |
Thanks for replies guys, one less thing to worry about if you've got a 2.4 then!
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11th Dec 2011 6:56pm |
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Paul_1978 Member Since: 08 Nov 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 384 |
The dpf on puegots is more of a than most as they decided to have a container full of serum (or pig ) under the rear seats which has to be "re generated" every 80,000 miles. Fault up on dash and have to go to dealer and get it done, cost £700 plus!
Needless to say when mine was approaching 70k miles, it went on ebay, will never have one again. According to LRO, land rover gave a 2.2 to a farmer doing small trips all the time to test the dpf and see if it faulted. |
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11th Dec 2011 8:29pm |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8021 |
the ones that use the magic 'sreum' squirt a load in each time a nozzle goes in the filler. the squirt enough for a full tank load so it makes sense to refuel to full from empty each time rather than the odd bit here and there. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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12th Dec 2011 12:12pm |
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Ed2 Member Since: 11 Oct 2010 Location: North Essex Posts: 79 |
Does anyone know how much it will cost to change the dpf on the new defender? and will it be covered by the 3 year warrenty.
...I think I can guess the answer to that one. |
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12th Dec 2011 9:45pm |
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pom Member Since: 01 Jun 2010 Location: Worcester Posts: 1343 |
It will be covered under warranty as long as you use the car in line with instructions, e.g cane it when the light comes on.
There was a case in the news recently where a victor meldrew had a jag and went through 3 of them as he didn't cane it when the light came on. The dealer quite rightly told him to foxtrot Oscar. It's the price we pay for the global warming myth. Pom |
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12th Dec 2011 11:17pm |
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Denis O Member Since: 04 Oct 2011 Location: Maidstone Posts: 30 |
My 535D has a DPF which theoretically regenerates when the engine is abouve 85C and you're running at 70mph+. It does feel odd when it starts as it's like having a miss on a petrol engine. Service life is shown on the I-Drive at 120,000 miles although that's only a guide. Drive it like a diesel should be driven; long high speed runs, and you're good. Do short runs at low speeds and it'll clog up and give errors very quickly.
When the time comes it's a £1,700 job at a stealer. That's when you remove it, chuck it on the scrap heap and run without. You do need a re-map at this point. Cost about £600 for mapping and associated plumbing. Most importantly, no more DPF. Perhaps Alive are developing a similar solution for the 2.2. Last edited by Denis O on 13th Dec 2011 9:10am. Edited 1 time in total |
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13th Dec 2011 6:39am |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8021 |
Lion Garage in Hay on Wye offer a DPF replacement remap for this sort of application i believe. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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13th Dec 2011 9:04am |
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d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044 |
The info leaflet that came with my 2.4 110 re dpf filters (we put them in all the info packs sir) says that to regenerate (amber light) get vehicle to operating temperature then drive for at least 20 minutes between 45 an 70 - constant speed is better, if required repeat process until light goes out. This is quite specific.
So thats a gallon of fuel or two and 20-40 minutes of your time to regenerate, if not its go to dealer in limp home mode when the red light comes on an prepare for a nice bill. That's all rather at odds with a magazine write up which said all works ok for farmers who have been trialling it, I can't see how easy that would be finding a bit of clear enough road to drive at a constant 45-70, certainly not round here unless I'm heading up to the motorway. Sounds fine if you use for commuting though. Glad I got the 2.4 - thanks for nothing EU DJ PS got to be good for the environment though 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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13th Dec 2011 11:09am |
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Ed2 Member Since: 11 Oct 2010 Location: North Essex Posts: 79 |
Wow! if I'd known about that it would have stopped me buying one, my 2.4 was only bought because the dealer was keen to get rid, what about when the 2.2 is 3 years old and has to be MOTed would you be allowed just to not have one? |
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13th Dec 2011 11:24am |
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