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jst

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if i had a DPF i would be staying out of water crossings that i do know. that aside if the vehicle is getting upto temp on a run it will prob be ok. Cheers

James
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13th Dec 2011 8:38pm

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Waldo wrote:
I agree with Dave, 2.2 Defender definitely does have the DPF.

SA-spec 2.2 Pumas do not have a DPF due to the poor diesel we have here and in surrounding countries. --
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3rd Jan 2012 10:53am

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Ed2 wrote:

Wow! if I'd known about that it would have stopped me buying one, my 2.4 was only bought because the dealer was keen to get rid

NO DPF on 2.4.

For me it's a step to far on a defender, hence buying the last of the 2.4s

3rd Jan 2012 10:58am

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READ ALL ABOUT IT!

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3rd Jan 2012 11:02am

Happyoldgit

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T1G UP wrote:
Ed2 wrote:

Wow! if I'd known about that it would have stopped me buying one, my 2.4 was only bought because the dealer was keen to get rid

NO DPF on 2.4.

For me it's a step to far on a defender, hence buying the last of the 2.4s

I feel the same. As I do quite a bit of short journey work I may just hang onto my current 2.4 Puma. Steve.
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3rd Jan 2012 12:24pm

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This quoted from LRO magazine.

Many current particulate filters need you to drive 10-30 minutes at 2500 plus RPM to regenerate the filter and this has caused problems for some such as couriers with their stop start driving.

'Getting this right was one of the trickiest parts of fitting the engine' explains Gary Taylor, Chief Programme Engineer on the Defender. We spent a week with energy provider EON staff and designed a re-gen cycle that would work for them. Analysing the data we realised we couldn't just shove the DPF under the vehicle, not only would it be in harms way but it wouldn't get hot enough to regenerate itself. They moved the DPF on to the down pipe - as close to the engine as they could get it.

'The result is that the DPF can be regenerated in about 10 minutes driving at just 20 mph, something that most users can attain. We've had two Defenders out with farmers for eight months and they haven't had problems', says Taylor.

Doesn't sound to be a very thorough test to me

I wonder if the farmers were working in minus temperatures

3rd Jan 2012 5:00pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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two!!! wow they have pushed the boat you.

What they mean is they have learnt from the RRV that it needs to be closer to the engine! Cheers

James
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3rd Jan 2012 5:10pm

Ed2

Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: North Essex
Posts: 79

This filter looks to me like an unnecessary extra that nobody wants (except the EU of course), something thats absolutly asking to go wrong and most likely just after its out of guarantee.

I can just imagine the scene when you go in for an MOT and it passes,

except for the filter, so that £1400 please.

4th Jan 2012 7:03pm

Zagato
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Thought I read somewhere that vehicles with DPF actually use a little more fuel as the engine is being choked further

4th Jan 2012 7:14pm

Ed2

Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: North Essex
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How does a DPF acually work? Does anyone know?

Being called a filter it would suggest it captures the soot, but what happens when that builds up? Is this what regeneration is? Does that involve a separate burning off automatically?

Dunno, sounds like a lot to go wrong to me..

4th Jan 2012 7:27pm

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
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Ed2 wrote:
How does a DPF acually work? Does anyone know? Being called a filter it would suggest it captures the soot, but what happens when that builds up? Is this what regeneration is? Does that involve a separate burning off automatically?

Dunno, sounds like a lot to go wrong to me..

Thats pretty much it. Great eh? Holds soot back, then you have to hold it at speed to burn it all off. Utterly utterly ridiculous.

4th Jan 2012 7:40pm

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