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diesel_jim



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Walfy, you want one of these for the clay range... you'll be the talk of the town!


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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Only thing that's good for is as a key. Cheers

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diesel_jim



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universal key...
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Les Brock



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Walfy,

Being a Fat badge is more used to the broad brush approach rather than a fine tip artist brush Very Happy
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Birdy



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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Les Brock wrote:
Walfy,

Being a Fat badge is more used to the broad brush approach rather than a fine tip artist brush Very Happy

Laughing Laughing

Image of Mark throwing lumps of P4 up at the clays
Post #1057477 15th Jan 2025 5:56pm
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walfy



Member Since: 29 Aug 2007
Location: Frome
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walfy wrote:
But a lot less features.

Sorry what?! Genuinely, how can you have more features outside of 1 or 2 barrels, 1 or 2 triggers?

My point was when I purchased my gun, I went to the gun shop, looked at a few guns spoke to a few people and they "chose" several guns for me to try. Now at this point I'd shot rifles for 24yrs so didn't know the first thing about shotguns. I'd shot maybe 10 shots at a LR launch day way back when.
So I had no idea about what was good or bad with a gun. The gun I now have felt the best, but that doesn't mean it the best fit for me. The shop I went to were very friendly and from what I remember, they did an eye dominance check and had me mount the gun several times while they looked down the barrel at me. I went out and put a box of carts through it. And that was it. It came with 2 chokes, I take them out when I clean it but I couldn't tell you what they are.

When I say features, I mean adjustable comb, ability to add weight where needed, recoil pads etc etc. Not sparkly lights and a natural ability to hit clays.

I've decided that a DT11 isn't worth the money for the amount I shoot, I reckon last year I shot 1500-1800 cartridges at the most.

After shooting the DT11, it felt a more solid gun and it felt more comfortable to shoot, it was adjusted for my mate who is a bit shorter and skinnier than I am.
Just mounting the gun felt right. So I feel as though the heavier gun is more suited to me.

I feel the time is right to invest in a new gun. To enable me to hit more clays, ie enjoy my shooting a bit more. I have the odd day where I hit 60% but most times I'm down in the 40% range. But I do enjoy my time at the ground.
I have had lessons on and off for the last 5 years and am fairly happy with my shooting style. 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD
RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it
VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys

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walfy



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diesel_jim wrote:
Les Brock wrote:
Walfy,

Being a Fat badge is more used to the broad brush approach rather than a fine tip artist brush Very Happy

Laughing Laughing

Image of Mark throwing lumps of P4 up at the clays


PE7 I think nowadays, we've managed to count higher than 4. But 7 is the limit, you never know, 1 day we get to double figures Rolling with laughter 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD
RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it
VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys

Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD
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Huttopia



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I’ve had the same Browning 525 for 15 years. Some days we get on really well, others not so great. I don’t swap chokes or change cartridges so I know the only variable is me. It fits well and whilst I could spend more on something fancier the end result would be exactly the same.

My shooting depends a lot on how I’m feeling, whether I’ve got work or other ‘stuff’ in my head. Having a dog on the peg with me is great for helping me focus on something other than the shooting, so I’m more relaxed and shoot better. All said I’d love a crack with something fancy to prove the point, it’s the bit of Censored on the end of the gun that makes the difference 😂
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sako243



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walfy wrote:
walfy wrote:
But a lot less features.

When I say features, I mean adjustable comb, ability to add weight where needed, recoil pads etc etc. Not sparkly lights and a natural ability to hit clays.
...

I feel the time is right to invest in a new gun. To enable me to hit more clays, ie enjoy my shooting a bit more. I have the odd day where I hit 60% but most times I'm down in the 40% range. But I do enjoy my time at the ground.
I have had lessons on and off for the last 5 years and am fairly happy with my shooting style.

I see the benefits of those in finding a gun fit but then after that I've found people who have them tend to fiddle with them. Personally I'd use them to find a nice comb height then take it to a good carpenter to sort it out. Or a little sleeve to go over it or something like that but that's my opinion.

My advice to people is to think about changing when your shooting flat lines for a bit. Unless your gun fit is terrible you should at least be able to be consistent on the same targets. Some targets may not suit the bad fit and that's okay as long as the ones you can hit well you hit well consistently. If your inconsistent then worth focusing on that first. Ed
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derbywill



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
I shoot Down the Line and have done so with the same Miroku MK38 Grade 3 for the last 23years.
I am left handed and the gun is right handed (albeit not alot of cast) but the gun has never been fitted for me. I picked it up off the shelf and for me I like to put a £1 coin in the centre of the barrels and the end pip just sits on top of the coin and that is rising enough for me. But this gun has got me to AA class, I'm a firm believer that a gun has to fit near enough but if you're not shooting well its the person stood behind the gun that is the issue.

You won't go wrong with a Beretta at any level, you can always put weights in the stock and on the barrels to help with recoil etc

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Post #1057627 17th Jan 2025 7:46am
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walfy



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Just to close my little bit off. I found a nice DT10 for sensible money and at a gun shop close to me that I didn't even know existed.
So I purchased it. I think they said it was a 2002 so got a few years on it.
The stock has a couple of very minor scratches on it but then what do you expect for a gun of this age.
It came with 2 chokes fitted (green and yellow) and 3 other coloured chokes in a nice box, and 2 flush fit chokes.
Spare bos was complete with spare trigger and spare beads.
The plasstic case has 3 combination locks, but they still have the little red tags in so have never been set or used.

I've had the gun about a month now and put maybe 300 cartridges through it. Not sure iof it's placebo or not but I feel I'm hitting more. I never score my shooting.
Not sure if it's because it fits better or because it's a heavier gun and a bit slower to throw around and I'm thinking more.

But at the end of the day, I'm happy with my purchase and back to properly enjoying my shooting again. 110 D250 SE HT
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RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it
VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys

Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD
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bear100



Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
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The DT11 is an awesome clay busting gun, heavy on the swing which is ideal for clays and feels very positive. I had the DT10 before it and treated myself for my 40th to a new DT11, not a huge difference between them but the DT11 does feel nicer and more positive to use.
I use a silver pigeon for my game Shooting, which is much lighter, It’s like waving Harry Potter‘s wand around compared to the DT’s

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Smyles_



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Only now discovering this very enjoyable thread as I get into the hobby. AndrewS old defender with the trap on the roof was certainly a highlight for me! Laughing

Thought I'd contribute my own shenanigans from January at my pals in the Highlands. Enjoying the clays (DTL particularly) and driven game but as an engineer, rifles and long range target shooting far better satisfies my overly analytical obsession.

Anyway, got my first ever stag after a couple hours trekking the hills when we came across two males which were taken simultaneously - 16 year-old me found this to be very cool. This was mine, ten pointed Sika proudly taken with a clean heart shot. Can't remember the rifle, sorry. I actually enjoyed the final 50 minute near silent stalk and slow crawling through snow more so than taking the shot. Is that normal or am I weird?


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Now ruthlessly saving many pennies for a multi-caliber Accuracy International... I'll post that update in 5+ years Crying or Very sad Laughing Stuart


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Birdy



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"Now ruthlessly saving many pennies for a multi-caliber Accuracy International"

My missus ("Annie Oakley" at the range) is ruthlessly saving many pennies for a multi-calibre (.357 and 9mm) Manurhin MR73. She's one on order, 5 1/4" barrel reasonable delivery but she wants 6" and there could be an up to eighteen month waiting list. Just as well, she'll need LOTS of pennies.

Peter
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