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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
^^^^ Glad I now know I am not the only sick one.... and axles, and gearboxes, and Tcases Whistle 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1004850 20th Aug 2023 1:39pm
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NickMc



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Northern Ireland 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
“My name is Nick and I have a problem”


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Post #1004853 20th Aug 2023 2:17pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
NickMc wrote:
Don’t you know that’s why you hoard engines…amateurs Rolling Eyes Rolling with laughter


Funny you should say that.... Whistle
Post #1004871 20th Aug 2023 4:55pm
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Julie



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France 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
Re: Puma mileage, how long will the engine last?
lightning wrote:

l've seen TD5's at that mileage still fine but l don't want another TD5.
How does the TDCi compare when you get to 200,000?


Mine has 140 000 and the turbo hose split once

Afaik EURO4 engines are certified for 70 000 km and EURO5 engines for 140 000 km.

Finally, milage is just a number. It doesn't tell you anything about the driving conditions : all terrain, sea water, mining or other workhorses, winter & salt, daily comuter, ... and the driver himself !

Better inspect several vehicles and compare ...
Post #1004887 20th Aug 2023 7:34pm
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Ianh



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Like NickMC, Dinnu and blackwolf I’m going to come out as a hoarder:-), however I’ve not gone as far as having a spare engine..mainly as I’m at 65k miles and only do circa 4K miles a year, so given blackwolfs miles that means I have another 50 years to go....so the engine will outlive me !!!!
Post #1004901 20th Aug 2023 8:47pm
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spudfan



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Wouldn't worry about the longevity of the engine. The government and the "greens" will have us off the road long before the engine gives up. Evil or Very Mad 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #1004905 20th Aug 2023 8:57pm
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revd



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steveww wrote:
Next Meridian https://nextmeridianexpedition.live are driving their 2.2 Puma around the world and it started the trip with 100kms on the clock. So far so good, nothing major to fix. That should give you some confidence.


They got to Australia and replaced the engine which had grenaded with a new in crate Transit engine shipped over from South Africa

Bluelandy couple with a Td5 completed their trip with 300k kms showing on original engine
Post #1054670 14th Dec 2024 4:14pm
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spudfan



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Any idea what caused the demise of the engine? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #1054676 14th Dec 2024 5:43pm
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revd



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Piston with a hole in it from memory
Post #1054683 14th Dec 2024 6:57pm
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gcc130



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My 09 plate 130 died at 112k miles with a hole in no.2 piston. Always been serviced regularly and carefully looked after. No warning it was about to fail. It did have a BAS remap.
When I dropped off at our local independent there were two 2.4s ahead of it awaiting new engines, I’ve since learned of lots more failures, some with shockingly low mileages☹️
Post #1054684 14th Dec 2024 7:33pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
My 2.4 went pop at 70,000 miles. No remap, correct servicing with genuine parts etc. For the replacement I added a catch can and change more frequently with a better quality oil but I don’t have any confidence in the Ford effort. My new one is remapped with an uprated turbo, I figure if it’s going to destroy itself anyway I might as well try to get some enjoyment from it first. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #1054685 14th Dec 2024 7:44pm
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gcc130



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Absolutely, I’ve totally lost confidence in the Ford engine, and I have two Pumas😡
Post #1054689 14th Dec 2024 8:21pm
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spudfan



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Yep I have two Pumas aswell. Never occured to me that the engine was prone to self destruct. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #1054696 14th Dec 2024 9:08pm
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johnnymarrsbarres



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People need to remember that forums like this - and garages - are exactly the sort of places where you hear horror stories, as for the most part people go to garages and post tales on forums when something has gone wrong.

You don’t hear about the millions of 2.4 Puma engines going about their business pootling around in Land Rovers, taxis and Transits with no issue, because nobody goes on the internet to tell the world they’ve had an uneventful experience.

The same is true of every other car marque on the planet of course.

I’ve owned a few BMWs and it’s exactly the same. People terrified on certain engines because there’s a few stories of them chewing up their rod bearings etc, despite there being millions of them out there running fine and dandy.

Helps to have a bit of perspective before you scare yourself.
Post #1055070 18th Dec 2024 9:32pm
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Will@LRW



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 1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White
The highest mileage Defender in the UK is a Puma, although impossible to tell what has been replaced thus far or if it's the original engine!

https://defender.lrworkshop.com/collection...fenders-uk LR Workshop
Find a Defender's history and spec: https://defender.lrworkshop.com
Post #1055094 19th Dec 2024 10:13am
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