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boode



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Ianb wrote:
Looks stunning, what month did you go?


Late Jan/Feb

Very cold but clear skies - not much snow falling and very icy
Lots of Northern Lights with beautiful sun sets and rises

Most nights were too cold to camp (we used Tipis with wood burners) as the ground was too frozen to get tent pegs into


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Did not quite get to Nordkapp as they closed the roads due to a blizzard - but driving in a blizzard was exhilarating - only just being able to see the red edge marker poles with no real idea where the road was - there is a pole on the left of the picture


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Very nice... I went in Jan and camped / snowholed, but I didn't have a choice. Wink
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Ianb



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My apologies to everyone for not replying. Thank you all for some great ideas and recommendations. We went to Alta last Christmas and the weather was really odd, one day it was I think -22 and quite windy, it was cold, fine if you were doing something, but once you stopped. The next day (actually Christmas day) I think it was hovering around 0 and snowing and felt quite pleasant!

I know we have ages to go until the trip, but I have started on some preparations all-ready, everything is expensive so easier to do it over time.

The last couple of weekends I have redone the auxiliary 12v system. Swapped out the lead acid for a 105 Fogstar (I keep wanting to call it Frog Star) and associated Renogy DCDC with MPPT. Sadly this wont all fit under the passengers seat so I have put it in the second row unit in the back. We debated between the 105 and 200 for a while, if it wasn't for Norway, 105 for us would be more than enough. I think for the power demands of Norway it might be borderline - but we can look at that throughout the year.

We have also had a diesel heater fitted for years, but the camper set up blocked the outlet and as we never really used it never bother to do anything about it. I have drilled the outlets for it now so that's all fitted and working nicely. There is a vented outlet into the second row unit, its partially there to block off a join in a pipe, but also could be used to warm temperature sensitive things / maybe use it as a bit of a drying room (although thats going to cause a whole bigger issue with venting and condensation etc. so probably a non runner).

I have a roll of insulation / thermal fleece that I am going to start insulating what I can. When we built the camper we did a pretty good job of insulating it, but there are some gaps from where we had the roof conversion done which we can improve on.

Quite nervous for the trip, but very excited at the same time!



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Ianb



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Very very tidy!

If you're thinking camping, also consider cooking options. We were in Scotland Feb this year and it was chilly/cold (not Norway cold) and we found our gas bottles (aerosol style and jetboil style) were really rubbish, recently purchased an MSR multifuel camping stove, one of the ones you fill a bottle with liquid, pump it a bunch of times (exercise and blood flow) then pray it actually lights and you don't starve (or at least I think that's how it works....) The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html
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TexasRover



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Ahh and you can use unleaded (better for your health than the leaded verity we used to use..). Agree these canisters (buthane?) are no good in the cold, does not need to be that cold for them to no longer work.

Some of these YouTubers just use an induction cooker with these portable power banks. Does make a little bit of sense
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jst



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Peak stove, Coleman dual fuel both work well. I use them all year round. You can get a preheat burn paste for cold environment's which is a great help and more fuel efficient.

Naphtha, unleaded, super unleaded all work well. Keep the rubber seal on the plunger lubricated Cheers

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Post #1053015 26th Nov 2024 4:16pm
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Ianb



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Interesting thought with using unleaded in a cooking stove, given that the fuel has recently changed to e10 (is it?), I wonder if that would have any impact on hoses/rubbers etc. The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html
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jst



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It doesn't burn as well are my observations. I don't use use e10 in mine. Naphtha is good fuel for them Cheers

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Post #1053382 29th Nov 2024 8:49pm
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boode



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I used Aspen fuel on our Norway trip through a Coleman double stove - worked fine in extreme cold
Aspen fuels are very pure without the sulphur, benzene or solvents found in car fuel - less taint on food or in your lungs
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jst



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Aspen fuel is good for chainsaws too. Naptha , Google will tell you, readily available. Cheers

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I do quite a lot of climbing / in the mountains and I must admit in the UK and Alps have never had an issue with screw top canister stoves (not the cheap 'lunch box' style ones) with the right blend of gas down to fairly low negative temperatures, in a tent you just keep the canister at the bottom of the sleeping bag / insulated with something and in the camper it shouldn't get that cold anyway.

I do have an MSR XGK somewhere for when we did high altitude / cold stuff, and you certainly knew when it was on - There was no chance of a relaxing morning brew with that thing!! We used to run it on either Coleman Liquid fuel or Aspen (use the '4' version) and it worked well. Although it would work fine on neat petrol it did used to soot up quite a bit which made a mess. Having read everyone's comments I'll have to dig it out again, if for nothing more than nostalgia!

I have had friends run the Coleman duel and single burners on neat petrol and they seem to work much better / less soot on them. MSR wise the Dragonfly is probably the best suited for over landing as its easier to simmer on, where as the XGK and Wisperlight are more for melting snow / boiling.
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@Andrew, We've found the normal screw on top ones are pretty good when camping, we have jet boil which was alright and a pocket rocket stove thing, both are alright. But with our Defender we have a pull out drawer with a double burner with a hose to a small gas bottle (still the camping style bottle)... it's great when the bottle is full, but the moment it gets to halfway-ish (in Scotland at least) I had to keep shaking it to get some life into the flame. The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html
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