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jbcollier



Member Since: 29 Apr 2024
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Canada 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Whistle while you work...
2.4 TDCI with a larger intercooler, "improved" intake, CAT & EGR delete, otherwise stock exhaust.

Ran fine, not particularly noisy, not particularly quiet either. Did the Bell 150 hp remap. Very happy! Pulls well though you do have to watch the pyro when the engine is loaded, such is life. BUT, it now has a pronounced turbo whistle that comes in quite low rpm and throttle position-wise. It is actually a shrill shriek. It is quite pronounced. I can't find any signs of leaks and, here's the weird thing, it seems to be coming from the rear of the vehicle rather the engine area.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Is the stock exhaust potentially a bottle-neck that is causing the shriek? Sounds a bit crazy to me but it did start immediately after the remap.
Post #1048489 12th Oct 2024 10:17pm
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andy63



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I remember having a transit that used to whistle under acceleration if I remember correctly.. never ever found anything wrong as such and it did stop over a period of months...
I think if you have gone to the trouble of improving your intake side , it makes sense to do the same on the output side...ie de restrict the exhaust..it improves the overall ability of the engine IMHO..
Post #1048493 13th Oct 2024 5:45am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The gaskets between head and exhaust manifold and manifold and turbo can cause this sort of noise if they're leaking. Worth checking, a very common problem.
Post #1048497 13th Oct 2024 7:22am
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mwestcrew



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Baltic Blue
My first Puma (07) used to snap an exhaust manifold stud and then it whistled like crazy. You couldn’t see the leak just hear it. 2011 130 Utility Body
2005 110 Van
Post #1048501 13th Oct 2024 8:28am
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wyvern



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.... maybe check the fan belt tensioner ... ours made a shrill noise on accelration when the bearings were going

just a thought Whistle Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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Post #1048502 13th Oct 2024 8:37am
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
My turbo whistles, sighs and a whole lot more. I’ve changed the turbo gasket for Nakatanenga, checked everything else for leaks and now have just embraced the whistle. I’m not sure if my neighbours feel the same way though.. It sounds very different from a standard Puma, more like a Dakar race truck, but I just presumed that’s what happens when you modify for more power and a freely flowing system. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #1048503 13th Oct 2024 8:37am
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
blackwolf wrote:
The gaskets between head and exhaust manifold and manifold and turbo can cause this sort of noise if they're leaking. Worth checking, a very common problem.


my money is also here.

plus what do you mean by watch the pyro? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #1048504 13th Oct 2024 9:05am
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mwestcrew



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Baltic Blue
My current vehicle sounds most uncharacteristic. Free flow air intake, big intercooler, 190 re-map, de-cat, 3 inch Demand engineering exhaust with just a small centre box. It’s not obnoxiously loud or anything but there is some distinct noise when coming off the boost. Induction also sounds quite different. 2011 130 Utility Body
2005 110 Van
Post #1048518 13th Oct 2024 11:04am
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jbcollier



Member Since: 29 Apr 2024
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Canada 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Good suggestions. I'll double check all the gaskets even though they show no signs of leaking.

"plus what do you mean by watch the pyro?"

On steep, long hills, I'm adjusting the throttle back to keep the gauge reading under 1400F max. I can easily push the gauge to 1600F, maybe more. This is NOT at 50 mph, more like 70+ mph. On really steep hills, I can only maintain 60 mph while riding the gauge.

Before the head gasket blew, and the head cracked, and before I fit the pyro and remapped it, I would romp up hills and fly down the highway at 85 mph, no problem. I actually remapped it because I was pretty sure someone had been in there before and I wanted a properly developed map rather than some "tuner's" dream.
Post #1048520 13th Oct 2024 12:25pm
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Ianh



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jst wrote:

plus what do you mean by watch the pyro?


I believe the OP is referring to a Pyrometer Gauge (AKA - exhaust gas temperature gauge) that he has installed.

More here https://drperformancerx.com/blogs/news/wha...STJ52WMEqy
Post #1048522 13th Oct 2024 12:42pm
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lightning



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Just sell it and buy a 2.5N/A

No need to worry about turbo whistle then. ln fact no need to worry about anything. Although you'll have plenty of free time to daydream if you're doing a long journey in it.
Post #1048533 13th Oct 2024 3:29pm
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jst



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Ianh wrote:
jst wrote:

plus what do you mean by watch the pyro?


I believe the OP is referring to a Pyrometer Gauge (AKA - exhaust gas temperature gauge) that he has installed.

More here https://drperformancerx.com/blogs/news/wha...STJ52WMEqy


Thank you, that explains it far better than me thinking pyrotechnics and smoke, flames exiting rhe exhaust! Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #1048568 13th Oct 2024 7:56pm
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jbcollier



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Canada 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

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Black Wolf call it. Cracked manifold to turbo gasket. Much quieter now.

Damn, that’ll be another round of drinks I owe…
Post #1052239 19th Nov 2024 8:18pm
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