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J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3395

My 90 was comfortable, no complaints with the coils, but now I have the 110 on air it’s on another level, it’s been a while since I’ve had an LR on air. Though it does lose a bit of character I feel. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

27th Aug 2022 9:28pm

Beefbeefbeef

Member Since: 01 Sep 2022
Location: Newport, Shropshire
Posts: 7

lightning wrote:
J77 wrote:
Air suspension now an option on 90 hard top.

ls it worth the £1600 extra cost? l drove one on coil springs and it was great, but my daily driver is the old Defender so l guess it would be, compared to that.

You'll notice a massive improvement even with springs on the new Defender compared to the old one!

I can't speak for air suspension on the new Defender as mine has springs (2021 Hard Top) (although I did test drive a 90 on air) but I've had it on several other 4x4s (Landcruiser, F-Pace, Grand Cherokee) and I can honestly say I don't think it makes much difference plus is notorious for breaking albeit the warranty will cover that. There are certain things I look for (and happy to pay extra for) in a vehicle but air suspension is somewhere down the list.

1st Sep 2022 5:28am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2763

The 110 will probably be smoother than the 90 anyway whether it's on coil or air suspension because of the longer wheelbase.

My 90 on coil springs is great on road, although off road it's really no better comfort wise than my old 2005 Defender 110.

1st Dec 2022 6:05pm

Farmerben

Member Since: 16 Jan 2017
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 605

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green

Do you really think so? I can tear around fields like I’m on tarmac in mine. Haven’t twa**ed my head on the door once yet https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews

2nd Dec 2022 1:33am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2763

Well l've not tried that! lt it probably better on fields and maybe l should have gone a bit faster to smooth it out

2nd Dec 2022 8:51am

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

Re: Commercial L663 110 Rear window activation.

walfy wrote:
NewDefenderUK wrote:
There are a few companies offering rear window activation on L663 110 Hardtops but to my knowledge nobody has actually linked the rear windows to the driver window switch controls?

It appears that the commercial variant uses a different wiring loom within the rear doors and I believe that software activation maybe required?

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.com/p...and-rover/

Rear Door Wiring Looms Left and Right hand: LR146010 LR146001

A new Drivers door switch and switch cover is required. It looks like the switch and cover vary depending on what model you have.

Drivers Doors Window Switch Cover LR147971
window Switch LR112883

It would also be good to get the rear door speakers installed and working, but this definitely needs the software changes so the rear speakers are on the FADER adjustment.

Does anyone have any experience of this?

I spoke to Vulcan about this the other week. They currently don't offer the window activation on the 110. Something about needing so many parts and being expensive. But I'd assume that if enough people ask they'd offer it.
Who else is offering this service?

Venture in Bolton are doing it. Just waiting for mine to get booked in.

3rd Dec 2022 10:44am

Paladino

Member Since: 07 Dec 2022
Location: Serbia
Posts: 30

Does anyone know what parts need to be changed for the conversion and the part numbers?

From my knowledge:

Rear part of the floor
Rear windows trim (the silicone will stay in place unless the doors are repainted)
Rear door wiring in order to enable the windows?
Rear door switches
Rear door "handles" for closing the door
B pillar grab handles in order to close the holes left by the bulkhead
Rear seats and seat bases and seatbelts

Anything else?

7th Dec 2022 9:25am

Farmerben

Member Since: 16 Jan 2017
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 605

Little PSA for any hard top owners or potential owners....

Not being a London dweller, was down visiting my little bro last week. Was driving from Battersea to Bow and the sat nav took me under the Rotherhithe tunnel.... which apparently you can't do in a commercial Defender because it's too heavy. £80 slap on the knuckles. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews

15th Apr 2023 10:39am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2763

The Rotherhithe tunnel was built in about 1910 and l think there's a 2m height restriction as well. Never designed for the motorised behemoths we all drive today.

A large horse weighs around 1,000kg which is just under a ton.

Maybe it was designed to take a maximum of a couple of horses and a cart.

Last edited by lightning on 15th Apr 2023 11:16am. Edited 3 times in total

15th Apr 2023 11:07am

Farmerben

Member Since: 16 Jan 2017
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 605

Yeah, seems a bit daft. It's commercials with a GVW over 2T.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/rotherhit...cles%20can't%20use,MAM)%20or%20permissible%20maximum%20weight. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews

15th Apr 2023 11:10am

Romadog

Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Powys
Posts: 1749

Any updates on window activation ........
Had someone asking me about feasibility and want to give correct info

22nd Sep 2024 12:13pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2763

lightning wrote:
The 110 will probably be smoother than the 90 anyway whether it's on coil or air suspension because of the longer wheelbase.

My 90 on coil springs is great on road, although off road it's really no better comfort wise than my old 2005 Defender 110.

Update after more time has passed, it's definitely better off road than my old Defender in regards to comfort. You don't get thrown around so much!
With regards to actual capabilities the old Defender was just as good but required more driver skill. Although the wading depth of the new one is much better in standard specification.

22nd Sep 2024 12:59pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17376

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Farmerben wrote:
Yeah, seems a bit daft. It's commercials with a GVW over 2T.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/rotherhit...cles%20can't%20use,MAM)%20or%20permissible%20maximum%20weight.

Interest and discriminatory. Why should a private vehicle with a GVW over 2T be allowed in that case? I also wonder what happens with a DPV since although in the same tax class as an LGV it is in the eyes oft he law not an LGV.

22nd Sep 2024 1:31pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2763

Maybe it's because a Commercial Vehicle could be carrying a heavy load, such as a mini skip full of stone, and it would exceed the safe weight limit.

1st Oct 2024 9:56am

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