CincyRovers1 wrote:

...It isn't fake, it is the sound of the actual engine, but sent through a tube and amplified in the cabin. It works incredibly well and it is the reason why modern turbocharged 911s don't sound turbocharged from the inside.

I know. That is exactly what I was referring to. My 911s are pre-sound symposer, but I remember thinking the same things when I read about it's introduction as when I read about enhancing engine noise through speakers the first time. But that lead me down the rabbit hole of self-reflection and DIY exhaust building that I described above and suddenly it made more sense.

Just out of curiosity, do you feel better about the sound symposer because it's "real" engine noise you're hearing vs "enahnced"? I don't mean that in a negative sense at all - I really am just curious.

@custom90 While I appreciate all sorts of motor sounds, my favorite is still a 90° V8. My Camaro (which I still own ) has a 350 with headers and a 2 1/2" exhaust running through late 70's Z28 resonators (the Z28s had cats prior to the resonators). And I think that it sounds better than any super- or hypercar I've ever heard.

Sorry to the OP for all the OT. 
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CincyRovers1 wrote:

stevemfr wrote:

I don't know why everyone gets so excited about the engine sound "enhancement". Porsche, Ferrari and the rest spend a significant amount of time and money engineering the sound of their cars, both intake and exhaust. I have not checked lately, but I can easily imagine that the SUVs from those manufacturers have "enhanced" sound as well.

As a matter of fact, I spent some time listening to various friend's cars before building the exhaust for my modified Camaro at the age of 19 and, come to think of it, purchased an IMSA (INSA? I think they were also sold as Monza) exhaust for my V6 Capri at the age of 16 after hearing one on a friend's Capri. (I just dated myself, didn't I?)

Emotions sell cars, and the noise is a a part of those emotions. Yes, you could call it cheating, but at the end of the day, who really cares? At least it's not adding any weight

I have a Porsche Macan S and there is no fake engine noise played through the speakers.

stevemfr wrote:

I meant to ask - do you feel better about it because it is a real, if finely tuned, intake sound vs a fake 'enhanced' engine sound through the speakers?

Nuclear Nick wrote:

CincyRovers1 wrote:

stevemfr wrote:

I don't know why everyone gets so excited about the engine sound "enhancement". Porsche, Ferrari and the rest spend a significant amount of time and money engineering the sound of their cars, both intake and exhaust. I have not checked lately, but I can easily imagine that the SUVs from those manufacturers have "enhanced" sound as well.

As a matter of fact, I spent some time listening to various friend's cars before building the exhaust for my modified Camaro at the age of 19 and, come to think of it, purchased an IMSA (INSA? I think they were also sold as Monza) exhaust for my V6 Capri at the age of 16 after hearing one on a friend's Capri. (I just dated myself, didn't I?)

Emotions sell cars, and the noise is a a part of those emotions. Yes, you could call it cheating, but at the end of the day, who really cares? At least it's not adding any weight

I have a Porsche Macan S and there is no fake engine noise played through the speakers.

Not through the speakers but there is an 'engine sound actuator' to 'enhance' the engine sound in the cabin.
Porsche have declared in the past that fake engine sound through the sound system, at least in ICE cars, is against their principles.

Nuclear Nick wrote:

No, I understand the Sound Symposer, it's fitted to my 991.2 GTS. Porsche have fitted the sound actuator to many models, including my now gone 2017 Macan Turbo, although that did have PSE.

I think we're agreeing violently here (LOL) but the main point is that while Porsche ICE cars don't have fake sound through the speakers some models will have the firewall shaker. It's Item 54 in the attached Macan parts list.


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Philm wrote:

Perhaps this should be moved to it's own thread, not hijacking someone else's

nebc100 wrote:

Do you know the reference code to look for in the GAP ccf?