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roche1800



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Water Temp Gauge - not working
The gauge is not working, so want to check the wiring and then replace it.

But where is it actually located on the engine please.



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Cragster69



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Cairns Blue
Part number 11 on the 2.4 TDCI engine

https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...d_44989#11

Can't find it on the 2.2 TDCI Diagram

https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...ad_2.2tdci Craig.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln

www.scotgrc.co.uk
Post #1044029 27th Aug 2024 4:59pm
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roche1800



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Does anyone know what the temp gauge on the dash plugs into in the engine bay?

Cheers
Post #1044030 27th Aug 2024 5:21pm
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roche1800



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In the 2.2 tdci Ford this comes up quite often, is it different on 2.2 versus 2.4?



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Post #1044033 27th Aug 2024 5:35pm
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andy63



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the 2.2tdci engine takes its temp from a sensor in the top hose Into the radiator... I think the 2.4 engine has a temp sensor fitted into the head, but not sure if thats in addition to the one in the hose or instead of...
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andy63



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Just had a look at the old Haynes manual..👍


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roche1800



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Located here…


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roche1800



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andy63



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the 2.2l then👍
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roche1800



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Is this the one that goes to the gauge on the dash??
Post #1044046 27th Aug 2024 6:52pm
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andy63



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I've not looked at the wiring dig , but pretty sure it is the sensor that will supply a signal to the ecu..which in turn will operate the instrument cluster temp gauge.. ie it's not a direct connection from temp sensor to dash gauge.. but I'd check that on a wiring dig.. I can't atm..
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Ianh



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I did point all this out in the other topic you raised on the subject.

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic93158.html

Ianh wrote:
Part 11 in the diagram ( LR041442) is the coolant temp sensor for a Puma 2.2 https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...es_2.2tdci

Part LR041442 https://www.lrworkshop.com/parts/LR041442

Without a lot more info it’s hard to confirm whether the DPF light is coincidental, although the ECU may take account of coolant temp readings when instigating an active regeneration and if the coolant temp sensor or it’s feed to the ECU is in error it may prevent active regeneration taking place, causing the DPF to fill, and then causing the DPF differential pressure sensor to trigger a warning light.


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Check temp sensor wiring and sensor. Change sensor if faulty. Then take vehicle on 60 minute 60mph run to clear amber DPF light, if light does not clear, or worse goes red, then you will need a forced static regen via diagnostics tools.

Second diagram down shows wiring to test from coolant sensor to engine ECU https://www.lrworkshop.com/wiring-diagram/...e-controls

Ps . “Used on a sheep farm in wales” ...that could mean the engine has been running and not getting to DPF regeneration temp for a lot of its life, which could cause DPF clogging and cause hiccups as exhaust gasses will be struggling to get out of the engine.



Andy is correct, the temp sensor is connected to the engine ECU and the ECU signals the temp guage on the Instrument cluster via the CAN Bus.

I suspect the wiring, one of the connectors or the sensors. Unlikely to be CAN buss as that would raise DTC’s, potentially the Instrument cluster. So test the wiring and sensor first.
Post #1044052 27th Aug 2024 7:20pm
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roche1800



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Sensor ordered…
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roche1800



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New sensor fitted and no difference.

Taken dash out and flicked needle with finger and it moved, engine off then engine on worked. Tried again this morning and didn’t move.
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roche1800



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And just to confirm there is power from the sensor back to ecu
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