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mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

Help with 200tdi clutch creaking

Hi all,
I have an increasingly concerning creak when releasing the clutch pedal on my 200tdi. Clutch was changed 6 years ago / 20,000 miles ago.

It creaks every time you release the clutch pedal (not when you push it down) and it is becoming louder. Happens on every gear change / when setting off but there doesn't seem to be any noticeable issue with the clutch itself. Sounds as if the noise is coming from inside the bellhousing, which sounds expensive.

Video here:

Any ideas please? It's not my knee creaking before anyone suggests that.

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12th Aug 2024 6:56pm

htb2

Member Since: 02 Nov 2018
Location: Carmarthenshire
Posts: 531

Dry clutch release arm pivot, or its pushing through the arm, I am assuming LT77 gear box

12th Aug 2024 7:15pm

mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

Thanks - yes it is the LT77.
How does one lubricate the release arm pivot? BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group

12th Aug 2024 7:16pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3421

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Search in the forum for squeaky clutch pedal. Lots of info. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

13th Aug 2024 12:31am

mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

I did have a search but the posts seem to be for Td5 and Pumas, unless you have found anything I haven't?

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13th Aug 2024 5:03am

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3421

I am assuming the creaking is from the pedal box, which design is practically unaltered from 1970s (possibly even earlier) till 2016. There are many posts how to lubricate the pedal shafts.

If it is the fork, which frankly speaking I doubt as mine, when it punctured through, it went with absolutely no pre notice, it would be an engine or gearbox out. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

13th Aug 2024 6:38am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4704

Pedal might just need a bit of oiling. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

16th Aug 2024 7:23pm

mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

Unfortunately oiling the pedal did nothing and the noise is indeed from inside the bellhousing.
Time to get it booked in to a Land Rover specialist... BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group

16th Aug 2024 7:28pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4704

Hoping it might be something simple! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

16th Aug 2024 7:36pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20443

Clutch fork perhaps, something that Pumas don’t have.

But isn’t the slave external to the trans on a TDI?
Where as the Puma is internal, which is worse maintenance wise as the transmission needs to come out.
But the clutch fork isn’t present, which is problematic.

I am presuming the clutch fork is internal though on TDi No Guts, No Glory.
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16th Aug 2024 8:00pm

mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

It is indeed internal. I will update the thread once the cause is know.

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16th Aug 2024 8:25pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4704

Some people change the fork for a stronger version. I never had bother with the standard version but some regard it as a weak link in the chain. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

16th Aug 2024 8:44pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20443

I’ve heard of that, I’d assume that would be a good upgrade with a clutch change but not specifically on its own. No Guts, No Glory.
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17th Aug 2024 11:48am

mini Anaconda

Member Since: 23 Aug 2016
Location: Thames Valley
Posts: 784

Mine already has a heavy duty one. Which if that is problem, doesn't inspire much confidence!

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17th Aug 2024 4:05pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4704

Having listened to your video the noise does seem pedal related, but maybe sitting in the cab allows you to place it differently 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

17th Aug 2024 4:42pm

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