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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481   
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401025186472
Now starting to look value at that price. No tow pack but can get it fitted. 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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23rd Apr 2024 7:47am |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037  
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Imagine what WBAC and dealers are offering to purchase these outright… £40k?
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27th Apr 2024 11:13am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3373
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Interesting, this one is at at dealer for 69k and wbac are offering 38k...
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27th Apr 2024 2:41pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2047
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After about 4 years a well looked after and serviced one with 25 - 30k miles on the clock should be £25-£30k, at which point I expect there will be a fair bit of interest from classic defender owners that like the Grenadier. At least that’s when my interest will be peaked.
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27th Apr 2024 2:54pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 840  
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Fully agree with you on that. Likewise. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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27th Apr 2024 3:09pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5197
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what's bugging me is that these are been handed back within a year of ownership
 Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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28th Apr 2024 2:23am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17453 
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Some will be dealer-registered ex-demonstrators etc.
Some may have been bought by people who didn't realise they're not SUVs and have found out the hard way they don't want a Defender replacement! |
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28th Apr 2024 9:28am |
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| Ianb Member Since: 25 Oct 2023 Location: Devon Posts: 405 
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@Procta,
I'm not successful enough to know the ins and outs of companies/directors buying brand new vehicles, but could it be a chance to just write off some profits? I thought normally it'd be longer than 1 yr ownership, but just throwing that out there... The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@YetitheDefender Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yetithedefender/ |
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28th Apr 2024 9:30am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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There is probably some truth in that  Plus of course their less than marvellous MPG returns. |
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28th Apr 2024 10:43am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17453
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Potentially some will be sold because having one didn't impress the suburban neighbours* as much as hoped.
* or the other kids and kids' parent on the school run. |
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28th Apr 2024 11:37am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3373
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The fact that they don't qualify as commercial vehicles means they attract significant benefit in kind liabilities so business owners are unlikely to be the main buyers. |
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28th Apr 2024 1:14pm |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037
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I think there is some truth in this. In my opinion, the Grenadier isn't a handsome vehicle. The front style is awkward and the protruding grill, with additional lights, gives it a piggy snout to my eyes. Add to that the ridiculous Jeep Wrangler-esque extended bumper and you have a visually 'challenging' vehicle. I know I am biased but old, or new, the Defender 110 is a good looking vehicle. Rugged but, and specifically with 2016 and older, a style that both genders can appreciate. Yes it is boxy but there really isn't one angle that doesn't work from a visual perspective - nothing that you have to make excuses for. To my mind, if the Grenadier had been a brilliant on-road vehicle, with less quality foibles, they may have gotten away with the awkward looks, in the same way Fiat did with the Multipla (a vehicle visually challenging but won owners over on the functionality of it). However, it isn't. It may be excellent off-road and may appeal to the rugged genuine explorer type but that, no matter which way you skin in, is a VERY limited market. The mass market are unlikely to embrace it because it isn't a good looking vehicle, nor is it currently a great one to drive on-road. I parked up near a lay driving a black Grenadier recently. She commented on how much she liked the colour of my 90 and I asked her how she was finding the Grenadier. Her quote was: my husband bought it and now I'm stuck driving it. She'd come from a mainstream luxury SUV and was not enamoured by the Grenadier. I can imagine more than a few people finding themselves in the same situation, bought without an extended test drive, or worse, off launch details and promo photos. Too many SUVs are viewed as statements and Blackwolf mentioned and it isn't hard to see a situation where customers bought into Grenadier and it wasn't at all what they were hoping for or expecting. |
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28th Apr 2024 2:41pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2861
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Quite a lot of people buy old style Defenders (mainly the Puma variant) and move them on once they realise how different the ownership/driving experience is to a modern vehicle.
There's a steady stream of nice late model Puma 90's and 110's going though my local LR Specialists showroom. Bought because they look cool and sold after reality sets in. The old Defender is a tool, designed to do a job. As is the Grenadier, to a point. ln that respect both vehicles are a compromise when used on the road. My friend biffed £35,000 on a pristine Puma 90 XS SW. l told him he would need to look after it and gave him advice about spraying the crossmember etc. He did nothing to it and it soon started to look less than perfect. After a year he traded it for a VW Transporter. These kind of people should buy the new Defender. lt's got the name and looks good. lt's also highly competent off road, should it ever venture there. Most won't, although there are exceptions. l like the Grenadier, except for the front. l ended up with a new Defender Commercial because of the Commercial status with HMRC. I can't say l love the front of my new Defender either, it doesn't look much like the old one. The side profile is much better. Hopefully someone will come up with a better front bumper and grille for the Grenadier, like they have with the Jeep Wrangler. An A-bar makes it look a bit better. |
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28th Apr 2024 8:01pm |
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