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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348  
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Incredibly heavy and dangerous, unless you have professional equipment.
Unless you are an engineer or professional in the trade, personally I’d recommend getting it done for you. As I said it’s dangerously heavy, and the risk of damage to it and you, the latter being most important is high. The biggest factor is, it’s unwieldy and the weight, even split both are extremely heavy. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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21st Mar 2024 6:33pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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No problem at all on a hard flat surface, had mine out two or three times on my own now. Just be careful not to drop the transfer or gear boxes on any part of your anatomy!
Take the transfer box off the gearbox (don't attempt to remove the two boxes as a single unit). If you only have a trolley jack, make up a steel or wooden thing to level the bottom surface of the transfer box (a board with a block screwed to it will do) and get a helper to assist steadying the transfer box and the gearbox as they come out and go in. If you can beg, steal, borrow or buy a transmission jack of the trolley jack style you can do it safely on your own. It is straightforward but slightly daunting the first time you do it, and I'd allow two days for the first time. You can do it in a day on your own the second and subsequent times. A transmission jack is cheaper than the labour cost of getting someone else to do the job, and you get to keep it for the next time! Last edited by blackwolf on 21st Mar 2024 7:02pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Mar 2024 7:00pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2642 
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People have been removing gearboxes from land rovers on their driveways for decades - perfectly doable if you’re sensible.
A stout piece of timber across the seats can be a helpful place to support it from above too. Getting it lined up going back in can be fun and two pairs of hands helps massively. |
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21st Mar 2024 7:02pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1218  
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An alternative if you have them is remove the centre seat / cubby box. Two small ladders either side of the front doors strapped to the chassis and a bar or fence post between the two through the windows. Piece of rope over that tied out the back door to the tow bar makes life a lot easier.
Or split the two boxes and it's not quite a doddle but not far off. I wouldn't try both together without a jack underneath but the ladder trick works well. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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21st Mar 2024 7:27pm |
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| andy63 Member Since: 30 Jun 2023 Location: north east Posts: 514
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I've had my boxes out and in twice in the last 6 months..(don't ask😂)
I would fall in to the elderly category, so not the flexibility and strength of years gone by 😩 First time in a back lane and using a crane to remove the boxes together... But after realising how heavy and awkward they were they were installers separately.. The 2nd time I had the use of a large garage area and they were removed separately and likewise installed separately.. The 2nd time I'd bought myself a little transmission jack and modified it slightly.. (see pictures) But it proved to be very handy.. There is no doubt that a second pair of hands is handy.. Once you get to removal and replacement, not necessarily for the muscle but just lining up and running on bolts etc one above one below.. If you have a 2.2 with dpf you will most probably have to get the engine raised if you want your front pipe and dpf to clear the chassis to get it out.. Nothing particularly hard if all goes well, just a lot of bits to remove and replace..  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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21st Mar 2024 7:57pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3414  
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I cannot comment on removing the gearbox, but for transfer box, removed and re installed two with just help of 2 extra hands to lower and lift up.
When I had to remove my transfer box, was single handed so made a bracket to go with my simple trolley jack such as the one on this site: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defe...mount.html I always remove the handbrake assembly before removing a transfer case. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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22nd Mar 2024 12:11am |
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| andy63 Member Since: 30 Jun 2023 Location: north east Posts: 514
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A couple of other points which I've remembered that helped me..
Make up a couple of long pieces of studding.. M10 I think, or long bolts with their heads removed.. If they were used in the block it aids fitting the box when it's offered up.. About 8 to 10 inches long. And removing the transfare box imput gears until it's in place can save a load hassle trying to line up the splines in the gears |
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22nd Mar 2024 6:31am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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There is a special tool for this, but since it's around £150 the home-made option is appealing. The tool is 100-045 SUPPORT BRACKET - TRANSFER BOX. This is the support I mentioned in my post above, and I've known people achieve the same result with wood.
From what I remember you have no option, there is insufficient clearance (at least on a 110) between the transfer box and the crossmember behind it to leave the handbrake on. It only takes a few minutes to remove it anyway.
Alternatively engage the CDL before fitting the t-box and turn either the rear or front output flange to align the splines, saving unnecessary dismantling. |
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22nd Mar 2024 7:05am |
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| rusty_wingnut Member Since: 24 Mar 2011 Location: UK Posts: 104 |
Years gone by I used to rest the transfer on my chest, and bench lift it into position. Actually got quite good at it as well
Perfectly do-able as said |
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22nd Mar 2024 8:08am |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1218
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Wait until you have to work on industrial engines. I had to pull the JCB engine out - cylinder head weighs as much as a 300Tdi block. No possibility of removing the wings as they're 1" plate steel and the dressed engine is just tipping over half a tonne. After working on that Land Rover gearboxes and engines are play things.
We did cheat though and a neighbour brought around his telehandler and home made jib to go on the pallet forks. With the chain hoist off the jib even at a 5m reach it just had enough clearance to get the engine out of the engine-bay. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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22nd Mar 2024 10:00am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1051  
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Its all about preparation, having a plan that makes sense and includes correct tools and a clear risk assessment because as is said already, it is heavy and you working in a restricted space. It would hurt if it falls on your face.
If you are not comfortable doing it, don't do it, but IT IS perfectly feasible to do this on your driveway and many people do. Personally I don't like to concede that easily. Sure you can have everything in life done by others but often you find that 'the professional' are not all that special and racing against a clock ($) they make mistakes or take shortcuts which are detrimental in the long term. For that reason I rather do it myself and I like doing it. |
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22nd Mar 2024 11:54am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8025  
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Yes. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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22nd Mar 2024 1:07pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Just expect the unexpected in case anything, fails, breaks or snaps or slips, and you should be okay.
Sadly, it depends a lot on the individual as to who does the “professional” works. If they have little interest or a bad day, then a good job isn’t always done. In some areas of the country it’s difficult to get decent works done at all. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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22nd Mar 2024 2:02pm |
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| MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 460 
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Perfectly doable if you're carefull!
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22nd Mar 2024 2:12pm |
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