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John P



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Steering box thread size
Does any know what the thread size is on the drop arm of a 4 bolt steering box? After removing the drop arm, the threads are slightly damaged, so want to run a die over it to clean up the threads. It appears to be 1.75 pitch and measures a fraction over 22mm. So is it a M22 with a pitch of 1.75, or is it a non-metric thread?

Thanks
John
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diesel_jim



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Googling shows the nut is part # NH614041 and I get this info:

Nut, Hex - UNF - Thread Dia in 1/16" (14/16th = 7/8") - length in 1/8" (4/8ths = 1/4")
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John P



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Great thanks for that. After a lot of measuring, and trying to understand non-metric (I'm a metric person) it does appear to be UNF 7/8 x 14 thread. So I've ordered a tap and die. Will report back when they arrive.
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diesel_jim wrote:
... Nut, Hex - UNF - Thread Dia in 1/16" (14/16th = 7/8") - length in 1/8" (4/8ths = 1/4")


Seldom if ever have I seen such a jumble of confused and meaningless non-data! Rolling with laughter

This is why the Internet needs to be treated with care!

Not a dig at Diesel Jim, by the way, but a dig at wherever this rot came from.
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Jim's decoded the nut's part number according to the British Leyland code:

http://vitessesteve.blogspot.com/2015/10/h...s-etc.html  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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blackwolf



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Interesting link, thank you, I was unaware of this.

If the PN is NH614041, using the link the p/n decodes as follows:

N = Nut
H = Hex
6 = thread = UNF
14= diameter in units of 1/16" = 14/16" = 7/8"
0 = Steel
4 = medium tensile (precision)
1 = undefined, possibly revision number.

So it is 7/8" UNF steel full nut, probably SAE-5(8.8 ), in which case it would take a 1.5/16" AF spanner. If it was a 7/8" UNF 'heavy' steel full nut, the spanner size would be 1.7/16"AF.
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John P



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The socket I used to take the nut off was indeed a 1.5/16″AF. I got it here, when I bought my Sumo bar upgrade. Thumbs Up

https://gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/product/defender-drop-arm-socket/
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John P



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My Tap and Die arrived today, and I can confirm that it is the right size. So nicely cleaned up the nut, having tried to fit it and it didn't fit, and cleaned the spindle thread. Thumbs Up
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All very interesting information and definitely invaluable for the future 👍
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