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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665   
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Lightning - my mate cancelled his (because of the tax situation / payload)
I may be cancelling mine. Altho Ineos - to their credit - have been honouring prices at the time of order, so I will be getting mine £9k cheaper than current price. I may offer it for sale before cancelling the order, on the basis the new owner save money, and I also make a small profit - maybe share the saving with the new owner (you save £4.5k and I earn £4.5k  ) Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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14th Jul 2023 9:00am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4718 
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The road tax here will be €2,400 yearly unless you can tax it commercially. If I bought the commercial variant that is what I would pay.
The two seat would start at €71,995 or £62,606. We would need the middle row for our daughter so the price goes up. The five seat starts at €99,995 or £86,935. Those prices are for the base models. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Jul 2023 9:11am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4718
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I am sure that the Ineos Grenadier is capable of carrying more but that puts it outside the current driving licence limits. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Jul 2023 10:09am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2865
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DVLA see the Grenadier as "Commercial" so l think you pay Commercial Vehicle road tax which is £330 and no initial higher rate when new. ln the U.K. at least. Last edited by lightning on 14th Jul 2023 6:20pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Jul 2023 11:02am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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That's what I was told too, for the commercial version (same 5-seat version as my 110 USW, and same road tax I was told - in UK) Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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14th Jul 2023 3:19pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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Anyone on here going to order one? We can both win out of this Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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14th Jul 2023 3:20pm |
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| Muehae Member Since: 17 Jun 2023 Location: Erding Posts: 20 
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The Hilux / Navarra can do it. I do not intend to be rude. A very fantastic project. But is this a joke? Quartermaster: price: 85 to 90 k€ payload: 0.76 t (without any accessories) fuel consumption: 12.2 l/100 km (WLTP) / about 23 MPG UK Range: 730 km (WLTP) / Reality 540 km Hilux: price: 35 to 45 k€ payload: 1.05 t (without any accessories) fuel consumption: 7,3 l/100 km (WLTP) / about 38 MPG UK Range: 1095 km (WLTP) / Reality 900 km So all mouth and no trousers? Sorry, it seems rather silly to me. |
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14th Jul 2023 3:21pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4718
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The Toyota website gives 29.7 - 30.7 mpg for the HiLux double cab. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Jul 2023 4:39pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2865
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That's about what l am getting from my Defender D250 Commercial.
On a motorway journey l can get 40mpg at around 70mph In city driving it's 30mpg Stop/start and short journeys between customers is 26mpg |
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14th Jul 2023 4:47pm |
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| LandymanStefan Member Since: 30 Aug 2017 Location: Surrey Posts: 881  
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How does it compare to a 79 series Land Cruiser on the Aussie market? Is that what they’re targeting with this?
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14th Jul 2023 5:49pm |
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| Muehae Member Since: 17 Jun 2023 Location: Erding Posts: 20
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Same with the 79 series. Way more payload, proven reliability, a flipping great diesel V8, fantastic styling, same fuel consumption and aehm what did i forget .... yeah half the price!
It seems the focused on solid axles and a ladder frame. The rest might important but not really. |
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15th Jul 2023 5:36am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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An interesting video of the grenadier stand at good wood this morning https://youtu.be/Z8EO0_VrBcA
I did like the look of the van, it looks like it has a lot of practical space inside. |
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15th Jul 2023 5:55am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2865
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lt does, but HMRC don't class it as a Commercial Vehicle so you can't put it through a company. All you can do is charge mileage at 45p per mile.
And the start price for the cheapest version (the two seat Commercial) is now £65,000. Add a few essentials such as a towbar and you quickly end up at £70,000. Makes a Defender Commercial seem cheap !! And you can get the tax/VAT back through your LTD company. BIK on the Defender is Commercial rates so £700 per year. l still love the Grenadier and would consider one over my Defender, but the figures just don't add up. |
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15th Jul 2023 9:30am |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 755
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79 Series isn't available in the EU is it? Certainly not in the UK. Don't know how the price compares, but I doubt half the price. Quick Google says AUS$80,000 starting price and I don't think that is for the nice trim. Sure I watched a YouTube review of one costing over $100,000 AUS. The 79 Series is also way more basic, much lower spec, less refined, less powerful and slower. |
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15th Jul 2023 11:32am |
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