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Setok



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Jaguar dropping the cat
So, it’s ’Exuberant Modernism’ now instead, I guess.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91231618/jaguar-rebrands-logo-ev-car
Post #1052249 19th Nov 2024 9:41pm
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WizzardPrang



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So this is the future. If only they employed engineers and automotive designers instead of marketing gurus. Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2

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Post #1052254 19th Nov 2024 10:23pm
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Ianh



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Well to be honest it would not be right and proper to put an iconic Jag emblem on an EV.
It would be like putting a diamond tiara on a pig. Smile
Post #1052255 19th Nov 2024 10:39pm
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DSC-off



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Bud Lite, Tractor Supply, Boots. This type of marketing and 'alignment' didn’t go well for any of them.

Post #1052259 19th Nov 2024 11:43pm
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Moo



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I don't get why brands ignore their heritage?

Just only have to look at VW to see how well they manage their brands. Thumbs Up Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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Because businesses have found out that you can make more money with disposable "fast fashion" than durable goods. Governments have been fanning on the flames by constantly changing the requirements.

The modern buyer is not interested in heritage, they want the next thing
Post #1052268 20th Nov 2024 5:47am
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Setok



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Ianh wrote:
Well to be honest it would not be right and proper to put an iconic Jag emblem on an EV.
It would be like putting a diamond tiara on a pig. Smile


I would love a proper Jaguar as an EV. Sleek lines, a bit of spirit, a bit of that good to be bad, a bit of heritage, and a nice drive.

As an EV the delivery could be super smooth, fast, quiet and full 'tank' every morning. What's not to like.
Post #1052280 20th Nov 2024 9:21am
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Setok



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TexasRover wrote:
Because businesses have found out that you can make more money with disposable "fast fashion" than durable goods. Governments have been fanning on the flames by constantly changing the requirements.

The modern buyer is not interested in heritage, they want the next thing


And yet the new Mini was for long a major success story. Renault is bringing their Renault 5 EV which everyone is raving about. Citroen actually has gone back to their older logo. Porsche still retains their design language. VW brought out their ID.Buzz.

Fundamentally people want good products that do the job and appeal to them. I'm not sure Jaguar's products have recently been very interesting. But I am convinced that the right mix of a good product and a bit of heritage can generate a winner.
Post #1052281 20th Nov 2024 9:29am
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macfrank



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Ianh wrote:
Well to be honest it would not be right and proper to put an iconic Jag emblem on an EV.
It would be like putting a diamond tiara on a pig. Smile

Laughing

It's still called JAGUAR though Rolling Eyes They could at least have tried to bring that icon into their understanding of what's modern. I've had DALLE have a go (carful, may need to wash your eyes after looking at it Wink ):



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rallysteve



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Moo wrote:
I don't get why brands ignore their heritage?

Just only have to look at VW to see how well they manage their brands. Thumbs Up


I am pretty sure VW do a decent job of ignoring a very particular bit of their heritage Rolling with laughter 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
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90 Dreamer



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as do Hugo Boss, Mercedes and various others funnily enough.......... Thumbs Up
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Black Puma



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Can you imagine the meetings over this..... Rolling with laughter

They need to look at a brand like Rolex. And, so yes, you cannot walk into a store and buy a men's Rolex. You have to give your details to be on a fake waiting list that can be up to 6 years wait.

I can't see Rolex changing their logo anytime soon. "Bow to the crown"
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BaronDefenders



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rallysteve wrote:
Moo wrote:
I don't get why brands ignore their heritage?

Just only have to look at VW to see how well they manage their brands. Thumbs Up


I am pretty sure VW do a decent job of ignoring a very particular bit of their heritage Rolling with laughter


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

When thinking about current brands that actually hark back to their heritage regularly, the only one I can think of is Ford with their GT. It doesn’t seem to be the “done thing” anymore. My take is that 95% of people buy a car as a form of transport, some just spend more than others. While many people have an interest in what they drive, very few are enthusiasts and so couldn’t care about a marque’s history. It’s not worth the effort for a manufacturer’s marketing team to try and appeal to a very small fan base; they don’t care . . . Charlie

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lohr500



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I wonder if Gerry has been involved in this?
Sir William Lyons must be turning in his grave.
Post #1052426 21st Nov 2024 3:36pm
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markb110



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Its like saying that if you don't look like one of those on that ridicules comedy sketch then you are not wanted as a jaguar owner.

Anyone worth their salt will not want to be connected to a brand that resembles, well, lord know what.

I guess that they think that the CEO's of the future will al be drag queens.

Probably want caused the passing of John Prescott...... Whistle

I shudder to thinks what Gerry the Fairy Godmother will do for the next Defender update....
Post #1052434 21st Nov 2024 4:04pm
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