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bear100



Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Depreciation? V8 & D350
Hi all

looking to replace my L405 in the next couple of weeks, I've decided i want the new Defender!

I've always been the big engine type of guy, the L405 has the 4.4 SDV8 which is very quick to be fair.

so looking at either a D350 or the P525 110 high spec model

millage will be low as it will be a weekend car so not bothered about mpg.

just looking at depreciation Twisted Evil the SVR's held a lot more money than the normal Range Rovers, so wondering what they are like for the Defender V8? are the residuals higher long term?
I'm itching to have another V8 only for around 12 months but if the depreciation is quite high would i be better off putting the dream to one side and buying the D350? 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)


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Post #1052966 26th Nov 2024 6:55am
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Munchie



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I've ordered a new D350 but have been checking out the V8s which have firmed up at the moment, probably due to not being many on the market. With the Octa starting at 140k I think the v8 will be a better buy than a d350 due to rarity.
I have the v8 already in my ftype so don't feel the need for the fuel consumption in the Defender.
Post #1052968 26th Nov 2024 7:35am
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Crazymind



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Difficult question to answer. At the moment residual are incredible.
I have bought mine in July and, just for fun, I have used the Webuy any car website last night and my Defender d250 after 5 month and 11k miles gets an offer of 3k pounds less than what I have paid for it in Jul!
Quite tempted to sell!
Strong residuals for the V8 as well!
Difficult to read the future though. Soon the market will
Be flooded with ex lease defender. From January I guess the value will drop quite a bit for the diesel, less the V8.
However if I was to keep the Defender 12 months I would prefer a lease .
Post #1052969 26th Nov 2024 7:36am
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dspuk



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We found the same as above - residuals are so good on all models at the moment, it was more value to order new than buy nearly new. TBH I have never worried about residuals on cars, it's a game you can never win, so just buy the car you want.
Post #1052970 26th Nov 2024 8:24am
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I’d be going V8, personally: especially with the new tax hikes coming for those engines come April. Get one before then. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1052972 26th Nov 2024 8:32am
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Munchie



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Plus LR will be putting up prices at some point next year to take into account NI changes and inflation.

It is better at the moment to buy new rather than used especially if a discount can be had on a new car with the new improved spec in the xHSE.
Post #1052980 26th Nov 2024 9:47am
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dspuk



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Quote:
It is better at the moment to buy new rather than used especially if a discount can be had on a new car with the new improved spec in the xHSE.


Just bear in mind the VERY best discount on new I saw was 5%, the deals are very few and far between. We ended up with 4% from our local dealer.
Post #1052982 26th Nov 2024 9:53am
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Munchie



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I got lucky with the discount on a future order as Swansea on Carwow were offering 4k off which i then used to play local dealers with. One only offered £2.2k off a new car (on pcp) in the end i got 6k off and a free service on an 82k car (d350 xhse with options)- but it took a few weeks to get there.

I got the PCP discounts but will be settling the PCP within 14 days with cash

Now i hear the discounts have really dropped off.
Post #1052983 26th Nov 2024 9:57am
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lrFFM



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I always use carwow in order to get great discounts. My local dealer has always matched the best offer.
At least here in Germany carwow works really well.
Post #1052984 26th Nov 2024 10:02am
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bear100



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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Thanks for the info and tips, i bought my L405 new and said i wouldn't buy new again but may be tempted now Shocked 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #1053074 27th Nov 2024 6:35am
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bear100



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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Thinking again! Shocked

The last of the P525's, i suppose they would hold more value than the newer P425?
i have noticed the price of them has increased since they ceased production, the quandary!

Do i order a new D350 and keep for a few years?
Do i buy a used P525 and see how the values hold up?
or go for a nearly new Range Rover? same sort of money. 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #1053350 29th Nov 2024 5:21pm
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
P525 and enjoy Evil or Very Mad 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1053351 29th Nov 2024 5:39pm
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Jerry



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^^^I agree. No brainer for me!
Post #1053367 29th Nov 2024 7:48pm
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Cheshire110



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Can certainly recommend the 525!

More economical than you’d think too on a long journey Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
Post #1053368 29th Nov 2024 7:58pm
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lightning



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But a V8 while you still can. Your next one will be electric and the end of driving enjoyment as we know it.
Post #1053933 5th Dec 2024 7:02pm
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