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mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5082

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

Sonic3d wrote:
mse wrote:
These bulbs apparently "respond" quicker when you press, giving a faster response

They will tell us anything just to get a sale

Yes like everything though, im still not really sure HD was anything special

At least they cant lie Mike

17th Feb 2009 10:47pm

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey

Please tell me your joking when you say HD is nothing special

I had a D3 with Xenon and now have an Audi A5 with Xenon and both are fantastic, the standard halogen bulbs in the defender are absolute

compared to Xenon

No wonder they are known as Lucas Prince of Darkness

17th Feb 2009 11:01pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5082

Bulbs in my 90 are Xenon and the discovery

and by the same principle the rear lights would be better.

As for HD we have had it for years and im not convinced now

went for my class one medical asked if my eyes were HD compliant, just to check

- seriously, they did seem to turn the quality down on other channels. Mike

17th Feb 2009 11:32pm

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

mse wrote:
Bulbs in my 90 are Xenon and the discovery and by the same principle the rear lights would be better.

As for HD we have had it for years and im not convinced now went for my class one medical asked if my eyes were HD compliant, just to check - seriously, they did seem to turn the quality down on other channels.

Have you the proper Xenon or the mickey mouse boy racer blue tinge bulbs? because the proper Xenon bulbs that operate at 10000 volts are far superior

18th Feb 2009 12:06am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5082

Sonic3d wrote:
mse wrote:
Bulbs in my 90 are Xenon and the discovery and by the same principle the rear lights would be better.

As for HD we have had it for years and im not convinced now went for my class one medical asked if my eyes were HD compliant, just to check - seriously, they did seem to turn the quality down on other channels.

Have you the proper Xenon or the mickey mouse boy racer blue tinge bulbs? because the proper Xenon bulbs that operate at 10000 volts are far superior

No blue in either of mine - i take offence Mike

18th Feb 2009 12:55am

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Mike,where did you get your xenon bulbs from ? 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

18th Feb 2009 10:18am

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

No offence meant

I just find it hard to believe that you think Hid Xenon are no better than fancy halogen bulbs

18th Feb 2009 10:57am

RickA

Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Preston, Lancs.
Posts: 18

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey

LED's

Hi Guys,

Try this Web Site :

http://www.aceparts.com/led-bulbs-by-fitti...56-382.htm

I use their LED's for ALL the bulbs on my 110. Good prices and fast delivery too.

Cheers, Rick.

18th Feb 2009 1:53pm

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

Thanks Rick,what about the MOT with xnenon bulbs in ? 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

18th Feb 2009 2:31pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5082

Sonic3d wrote:
No offence meant I just find it hard to believe that you think Hid Xenon are no better than fancy halogen bulbs

There should have been a

after i take offence, none actually taken

No I like some of the HID's didnt mean to suggest i didnt - but usually on the cars they are supposed to be fitted to

Im not a fan on the defender - just doesnt seem right and certainly more parts to fail

Quote:
Hi Guys,

Try this Web Site :

http://www.aceparts.com/led-bulbs-by-fitti...56-382.htm

I use their LED's for ALL the bulbs on my 110. Good prices and fast delivery too.

Thats a good site - are the rear LED's better in your opinion? Mike

18th Feb 2009 4:36pm

RickA

Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Preston, Lancs.
Posts: 18

LED's

Hi MSE & all,

Yes, the LED's are definately better in my opinion - much brighter. The white front sidelights are really bright and clear and the rears the same.

One thing you notice is that the light is slightly 'focused' - it is more like a beam than the all-round glow you get from normal defender lights (because they don't have a reflector like most cars). This is one reason they look brighter - the light is going where you want it to!

No prob with MOT with LED's Grockle if that is what you mean. HID's are another matter!

(Please don't confuse HID lights with 'xenon' - HID's are gas-discharge lamps - Xenon is just the gas filling in a halogen bulb.)

Cheers, Rick

18th Feb 2009 8:38pm

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 812

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

Re: LED's

RickA wrote:
One thing you notice is that the light is slightly 'focused' - it is more like a beam than the all-round glow you get from normal defender lights (because they don't have a reflector like most cars). This is one reason they look brighter - the light is going where you want it to!

Agree about the spot brightness, but my personal opinion when I bought some LEDs was that the all-around visibility was more important... not so much of an issue with front sides, I wanted my rear lights to be just as bright from 70 degress as straight-on.
I think LEDs are great - but more so in purpose-designed reflectors.

I know some designs try to address this by clustering multiple LEDs around the sides of the 'bulb' stem, maybe some of these are better at this now.

19th Feb 2009 10:46am

RickA

Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Preston, Lancs.
Posts: 18

ADS90,

The LED's I use are a combination of 18 LED's facing out and 6 around the side - best of both worlds!

The main reason I have for going for LED's though is the very low battery drain and the reliability. I am prepping my 110 for an extended overland trip and LED's mean one less pack of spares to carry. I have swopped every light for a LED (apart from stripping the dash apart!) and fitted HID's to the Headlights and Spots.

Cheers, Rick.

19th Feb 2009 11:00am

Sonic3d

Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
Posts: 1505

RickA wrote:
and fitted HID's to the Headlights and Spots.

I have fitted them to my headlights also

they are a fantastic improvment

19th Feb 2009 12:08pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5082

RickA wrote:
ADS90,

The LED's I use are a combination of 18 LED's facing out and 6 around the side - best of both worlds!

The main reason I have for going for LED's though is the very low battery drain and the reliability. I am prepping my 110 for an extended overland trip and LED's mean one less pack of spares to carry. I have swopped every light for a LED (apart from stripping the dash apart!) and fitted HID's to the Headlights and Spots.

Cheers, Rick.

I thought all the dash bulbs were LED's already, switches are Mike

19th Feb 2009 3:49pm

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