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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1079   
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All auto transmissions assume you keep it in drive at all times.
Having said that, you do need to keep your foot on the brake to stand still, which for us manual users can get a little tedious, so for longer waits you can knock it in neutral and pull the hand brake, obviously easier if that is an old fashioned lever. Since Automatics cater for the mechanically illiterate among us there are normally a bunch of annoying interlocks as well, which get annoying. I have both manuals and automatics and find manuals a much more agile in traffic. You can't beat a small manual in Paris streets. |
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20th May 2024 5:21am |
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| DefenderMidlands Member Since: 08 Mar 2023 Location: West Midlands Posts: 227 
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The car will auto hold in D at lights etc so you can take your foot off the brake pedal. Just press the accelerator once ready to go. MY23 D250 Defender 110 X-Dynamic SE, Carpathian Grey, 7 Seat, Electric Towbar
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20th May 2024 5:32am |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2655 
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I turned that auto hold off in the first 5 mins, very annoying.
I put the car in park when waiting at lights. |
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20th May 2024 6:05am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2825
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l find Auto Hold to be a pain when you are in slow moving traffic or trying to park. But it works if you get along with it activating every time the traffic stops. lt can be turned off in the menu.
Personally l leave the vehicle in D and use the "handbrake" when stopped for more than a few seconds such as at traffic lights. The handbrake auto releases when you drive off, so you don't even have to disengage it. l used to use "Park" but it requires you to press the brake to release it, then push the button before moving the shift lever into "D" With the handbrake applied, just press the gas pedal and you're off. |
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20th May 2024 8:04am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1394 
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Just leave it in D and don't worry.
If you want you can switch Auto Hold off, although it will still Auto Hold n hills but it allows for more precise slow speed manoeuvring. As for Auto stop start, never notice it and in 27,000 miles (43,000km) I've never once manually applied the hand brake, and I live in Bath, which is really hilly! Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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20th May 2024 8:19am |
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| carltb Member Since: 06 Oct 2023 Location: Sweden Posts: 57  
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At traffic lights just give the brake pedal a hard push and it will auto hold the car without the need to have your foot on the brake. Stays like this until you press the gaspedal again. 2025 Defender 130 V8
2025 Defender 90 D250 (wifes) 2024 Defender 110 p400e HSE (sold) 2015 Defender 110 Double cab 2004 Defender 90 Td5 |
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20th May 2024 8:30am |
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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 203 
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Thanks guys, I'm going to try to metabolize all that information.Many thanks 👍🏼👍🏼 by now to say that In reality, I am never using the handbrake, I get confused sometimes and I try to understand the hold... I had trouble with very slow maneuvers without suddenness, I deactivate it then... and I don't know why LR has decided that the handbrake has to act in the opposite direction to D3, that bothers me!!In that one it was more logical, the same thing happens with the automatic transmission, the logical thing would be for D to be a forward lever and R to be a rear lever, right?…Anyway, we are beginning to understand each other, no doubt!!
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20th May 2024 12:21pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2825
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That's interesting l'll give it a try. |
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20th May 2024 4:24pm |
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| WizzardPrang Member Since: 05 Nov 2020 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 154 
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Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2 Insta: wizzardprang |
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20th May 2024 9:22pm |
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| WizzardPrang Member Since: 05 Nov 2020 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 154
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That's what I do, useful for longer waits at lights & the ever-present roadworks. Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2 Insta: wizzardprang |
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20th May 2024 9:23pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2825
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Tried that and yes it works! Learn something every day....only had the Defender 18 months
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20th May 2024 9:54pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20428
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Surely holding brakes after extreme or long hill decent will be cooking the Brake pads, callipers, pistons and heating the discs a lot with them applied have LR engineered that in, assume they have?
Only if I ever had a long hill decent, if there was a situation where you had to stop for example on said hill with hot brakes I believe in applying the handbrake once stopped and then letting the brakes cool down. Yes, you’d keep in a low gear anyway to have engine braking but being at a standstill after the brakes being heated right up having then applied is going to keep them a lot hotter, and more likely to boil the brake fluid as well. Are the new Defs brakes on a 90 vented? Or is it just 110’s upwards like a Puma? Just curious more than anything, how does the auto trans engine braking on decent and or under load work out? Presumably it drops down enough. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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20th May 2024 10:04pm |
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| nebc100 Member Since: 07 Nov 2023 Location: Altlinster Posts: 97 
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Doesn’t the hand brake of the latest generation of JLR vehicles use the normal disk brakes at the back?
I am of the understanding that it doesn’t have separate pads/shoes like on previous vehicles. This would mean that if your brakes are hot and you apply the hand brake it isn’t so different to simple keeping the brakes applies using the pedal or auto-hold. The only difference would be that the hand brake only keeps the REAR brakes applied whereas the pedal/auto-hold keeps all 4 brakes applied. |
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21st May 2024 4:42am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2825
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Well there's not really any alternative except to put it in "Park" which seems to apply the handbrake anyway.
I've never had any issues with my brakes from using the handbrake when stopped at traffic signals etc. |
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21st May 2024 6:43am |
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