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L110CDL



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5th wheel defender
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Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.
Post #1035040 17th May 2024 7:44pm
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custom90



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That’s really interesting. Thumbs Up

I wonder what the permitted weights are, I expect the 5th wheel hitch is higher nose weight than a ball and hitch set up.
Isn’t LR towing weight Approx upto 3.5T but in reality can do more I would have thought. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1035046 17th May 2024 8:17pm
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L110CDL



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Yes i also thought about the length of what you have attached to your 5th wheel. 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.
Post #1035047 17th May 2024 8:27pm
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Rosco



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I’m sure i saw something once about towing capacity being 4+ tonnes of air brakes were fitted. But essentially it’s so specialist it’s out of reach to regular folk 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
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Post #1035060 17th May 2024 10:41pm
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Chicken Drumstick



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custom90 wrote:
That’s really interesting. Thumbs Up

I wonder what the permitted weights are, I expect the 5th wheel hitch is higher nose weight than a ball and hitch set up.
Isn’t LR towing weight Approx upto 3.5T but in reality can do more I would have thought.

In the UK there will also be restrictions based on your licence and how the vehicle is registered.
Post #1035115 18th May 2024 6:18pm
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blackwolf



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Rosco wrote:
I’m sure i saw something once about towing capacity being 4+ tonnes of air brakes were fitted. But essentially it’s so specialist it’s out of reach to regular folk


All the leafers were rated to 4 tons GTW with coupled brakes, I've never seen figures for coilers. 3.5 tonnes GTW is the legal maximum for a ball hitch and for overrun brakes.
Post #1035116 18th May 2024 6:44pm
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ickle



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Max trailer weight is 3.5t with over run brakes, 4 t with coupled air brakes IIRC, GTW (gross train weight - car, load, passengers, trailer and load) is considerably more than 3.5t.
Post #1035120 18th May 2024 7:39pm
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blackwolf



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Sorry, I was using the abbreviation GTW to mean "Gross Trailer Weight" not gross train weight, showing my age again. I should have been explicit and unambiguous.
Post #1035156 19th May 2024 5:03pm
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miker



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blackwolf wrote:
Rosco wrote:
I’m sure i saw something once about towing capacity being 4+ tonnes of air brakes were fitted. But essentially it’s so specialist it’s out of reach to regular folk


All the leafers were rated to 4 tons GTW with coupled brakes, I've never seen figures for coilers. 3.5 tonnes GTW is the legal maximum for a ball hitch and for overrun brakes.


I've seen mostly movie makers tractor units running around with ball hitched RV trailers, presuming they are a bigger ball or something American, but definitely a ball and definitely over 3500kg. Coupled brakes too.
Post #1035157 19th May 2024 5:43pm
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Post #1036158 31st May 2024 1:44am
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