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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
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Around 2mpg better in "eco" when driving locally.

It softens throttle response and changes into higher gears sooner, turns off heated seats ;
(although you can turn them back on again and they stay on) sets the HVAC to economy mode. Not sure what else is changed.
Post #1016673 28th Nov 2023 11:34pm
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DFNDER



Member Since: 02 Oct 2023
Location: Perth WA
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Australia 
I don't turn the climate off at all, this way when I use the remote start feature, the cabin is exactly how I want it. Only takes 2-3 minutes, engine is warm and trans torque converter is also ready to go. Better than driving off immediately after a start up.
Post #1016680 29th Nov 2023 4:51am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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^ not quite so quick when it’s -6C outside………… even with the cabin heat set at +23 it takes longer than the timed pre-heat but only the metal on the steering wheel is cold to touch after 30 minutes but the cabin still isn’t up to temperature by then………… maybe I should have formed out the extra £1300 for the remote controlled diesel powered heater instead of the ediff!
I tend to drive my Mini on cold days as the preconditioning heats the seats and ,as the steering wheel also heats on preconditioning, there’s no frozen metal bits to touch too Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #1016725 29th Nov 2023 4:27pm
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
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Your profile picture shows a Defender 300tdi

If you own one of those l am surprised you are not happy with heater in new one!

My wife had a 300tdi Defender some years ago

Wife
"There's a draft on my leg when l'm driving along"

Me
"ls it cold or warm"

Wife
"Slightly warm l think, not sure"

Me
"Oh, that's the heater"
Post #1016726 29th Nov 2023 4:38pm
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Rolling with laughter
Post #1016749 29th Nov 2023 6:28pm
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CincyRovers1



Member Since: 30 Nov 2023
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One of my biggest complaints with the Defender is the weak climate control. My old LR4 and Disco 5 always cooled down and heated up really quickly, as does my 2023 Macan S. The Defender just isn't as good, even in "powerful & fast." 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟏 𝐃𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝟏𝟏𝟎 𝐒 𝐏𝟑𝟎𝟎 (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar)
𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟑 𝐏𝐨𝐫𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐒 (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red)
𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟕 𝐃𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐇𝐒𝐄 𝐋𝐮𝐱𝐮𝐫𝐲 𝐒𝐢𝟔 (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone
𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟏 𝐋𝐑𝟒 𝐇𝐒𝐄 𝟓.𝟎 (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone
Post #1017038 1st Dec 2023 2:56pm
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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Mine seems okay but it's the Commercial version so it's only heating up the front cabin, there's a bulkhead behind the seats.
Post #1017056 1st Dec 2023 5:34pm
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DefenderMidlands



Member Since: 08 Mar 2023
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Mine is poor. Even on hi for half an hour with the remote app it isn’t that warm when I get in. My discovery sport was much better MY23 D250 Defender 110 X-Dynamic SE, Carpathian Grey, 7 Seat, Electric Towbar
Post #1017058 1st Dec 2023 5:48pm
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
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I've noticed the Heating and Cooling on both the Defender and New Range Rover to be less effective than previous LRs I have owned. I don't know if its because they are trying to be too clever but the vents, temperature and overall impact of changes via the controls seem less responsive. I find we end up fiddling with it much more to get comfort where on the old models we had it at a set temperature and almost never touched it. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #1017061 1st Dec 2023 6:11pm
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martinf



Member Since: 30 Nov 2020
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I have no complaints about the effectiveness of the climate control. But mine is a P300 so I wonder if the petrol engine warms up more quickly.
Post #1017110 2nd Dec 2023 8:12am
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DefenderMidlands



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My previous car was petrol and was much better so possibly they heat up quicker MY23 D250 Defender 110 X-Dynamic SE, Carpathian Grey, 7 Seat, Electric Towbar
Post #1017112 2nd Dec 2023 8:31am
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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Yea generally petrol engines heat up quicker. But some diesels have an electric heater in addition to the normal one.
Clearly not the Defender though, from the messages above.

On our Defender TD5 my wife used to drive it around five miles to work, which took approximately forty minutes in the heavy traffic.

The heater didn't really warm up the cabin at all when it was below freezing. Modern diesels seem to be able to produce warm air from the heater fairly quickly even when you're in traffic and barely getting past 25mph.
Post #1017129 2nd Dec 2023 9:54am
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
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WizzardPrang wrote:
Eco is the one mode I've never used. I like my A/C on al the time.


The A/C still works in "ECO" mode but defaults to "soft & quiet" You can turn the A/C back to "powerful & fast" while still in ECO mode if you want.
Post #1017748 7th Dec 2023 9:02pm
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WizzardPrang



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Thanks, lightning, I'll have to try it. Thumbs Up Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2

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Post #1017752 7th Dec 2023 9:43pm
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Niebieski20



Member Since: 07 Nov 2023
Location: Poland
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Hi I have a question about climate control.
I do not have such option in Remote App. I know it is blocked on some market that car was made for. Is this is related to Remote App/their server or something that can be changed in CCF?

Regards
Post #1017805 8th Dec 2023 1:19pm
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