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MuddyMarky

Member Since: 01 Feb 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 548

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Help for a new TD5 owner....

OK chaps, I'm looking for some advice please, if you don't mind. My sister has decided it's time she got herself a Defender aswell, after the last couple of years 'admiring' mine

It would seem from her approx budget, that she'll be in the market for a late TD5. She wants a 110CSW, but would like to stay within the earlier road tax bracket. Ideally in XS spec, but I've told her not to be too picky about that (although would be good if she could really get what she wants).

Anyway, obviously I'll be involved at helping her look at some etc, so wondered if you fellas had any pointers about any problem areas. I've have a search here, and found a couple of issues (oil on the loom, etc), but wondered if there was much else to look out for?

Thanks guys

Mark
2011 110 XS DC
Stornoway Grey

29th Oct 2011 2:36pm

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

it must have a full service history for starters,your sister could always have an AA inspection done before commiting herself

Good luck

2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

29th Oct 2011 2:43pm

MuddyMarky

Member Since: 01 Feb 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 548

Thanks chap, sorry, I meant to say, I'm OK with the more 'normal/obvious' stuff....ie car-buying related (HPI/service history/tyres/rust, etc).

AA check ok with these, do you think? I mean, do they know enough, generally about Def's?

Mark
2011 110 XS DC
Stornoway Grey

29th Oct 2011 2:49pm

stevie d

Member Since: 09 Nov 2009
Location: Bishops Stortford
Posts: 342

I would try and buy from a passionate owner who has thorughly maintained the vehicle, waxoiled etc.

Do not buy from a 'pikey' on ebay!!

Don't be tempted to a buy a vehicle you haven't seen!! A lot of people do!!

There are some good dealers around, James French, Nene Overland etc - you pay more, but hopefully get a solid vehicle.

I don't think there are any particular mechanical problems to worry about.

Steve

Defender 90 TD5 Station Wagon
Discovery 3 HSE
BMW 330i Coupe

29th Oct 2011 4:34pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

We're selling a Tombraider 90 CSW - full service history - just what she needs

John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

29th Oct 2011 5:25pm

MuddyMarky

Member Since: 01 Feb 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 548

Thanks John, but she really needs a 110 and has said she'd like as new as possible (sadly as I love the T/R's!).

I live about 7 miles from J French and although on here he seems to have a good rep, his prices are astronomical really....example, I paid the same for my 99 mile DC xs from main dealer as he was asking for an '08 with 30k on it! I know from experience defenders hold their money, but that's just silly

Oh, and don't worry folks, I'll never, ever buy any car without seeing it first!

Good to hear there aren't too many issues so far though

Mark
2011 110 XS DC
Stornoway Grey

29th Oct 2011 5:39pm

Bobble

Member Since: 21 Aug 2011
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 223

Grockle wrote:
it must have a full service history for starters,

Considering the youngest Td5s are nearly 7 years old now that could be quite a rarity.

29th Oct 2011 9:46pm

wslr

Member Since: 18 Jul 2010
Location: Wellington, Somerset
Posts: 581

It is a bit of a minefield buying any older Land Rover. Ideally, but one with a single owner who hasn't been afraid to open his wallet. Most people tend to sell Defenders once they start costing in terms of repairs, or the chassis is is about to render the vehicle an MOT failure.

I also think your sister needs to keep some money back for its after sale repairs. She wouldn't be the first person to find her Defender's R380 full of water.

29th Oct 2011 10:07pm

alanhid

Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
Location: South Lanarkshire Scotland
Posts: 221

2006 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

Bobble wrote:
Grockle wrote:
it must have a full service history for starters,

Considering the youngest Td5s are nearly 7 years old now that could be quite a rarity.

Mine must be really young then......it's only 5! Life is not a rehearsal!
Def 90td5 CSW xs 2006

29th Oct 2011 10:29pm

chiefstoker

Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: Weston-super-Mud
Posts: 897

There was a 90XS station wagon for sale not far from me the other day with 10,000m one owner mint. Mine only has 29,000m - so they are about. 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

Beer 'n Sex 'n Chips 'n Gravy

30th Oct 2011 8:18am

bob neville

Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
Location: Marbella
Posts: 3248

chiefstoker wrote:
There was a 90XS station wagon for sale not far from me the other day with 10,000m one owner mint. Mine only has 29,000m - so they are about.

Any details ?

I am still looking for a 90 hardtop or sw.

Bob

30th Oct 2011 8:43am

twopoint6khz

Member Since: 18 Aug 2011
Location: North Lakes
Posts: 654

Bobble wrote:
Grockle wrote:
it must have a full service history for starters,

Considering the youngest Td5s are nearly 7 years old now that could be quite a rarity.

Cobblers. I've seen plenty of LRs 10+ years old with FSH. The latter ones probably won't be main dealer, but that's probably a good thing IMO

The last Td5s were '07 plate, so 4.5 years old. Last of the cheap road tax would be an early 2006 '55 plate - like mine

For a 110 CSW with low-ish miles you're looking at the £15k region. That's what I paid for mine 6 months ago - '55 plate CSW (not XS) with 45k on the clock, FSH, from an independent.

I'd agree with not buying one off a pikey on ebay. Find a dealer you trust.

The other thing I learnt is be prepared to travel. This depends a bit on where you live, but I ended up going to a dealer 150 miles away simply because where I live (the middle of nowhere) all the dealers jack their prices up to take advantage of the captive audience.

Good luck!

30th Oct 2011 9:59am

jont

Member Since: 02 Apr 2011
Location: Aylesbury, Bucks
Posts: 242

2006 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Santorini Black

Took a couple of months before we managed to get ours - they seemed to vanish off the forecourts or websites within 24 hours !

Paid 16.5k for our 06 90 CSW XS last October - had 40k on the clock, immaculate, one owner with FSH from selling dealer - Lookers in Bishop Stortford - 70+ miles away so as said be prepared to travel ...

Jon

30th Oct 2011 10:57am

Green Machine

Member Since: 19 Nov 2010
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1226

twopoint6khz wrote:
Bobble wrote:
Grockle wrote:
it must have a full service history for starters,

Considering the youngest Td5s are nearly 7 years old now that could be quite a rarity.

Cobblers. I've seen plenty of LRs 10+ years old with FSH. The latter ones probably won't be main dealer, but that's probably a good thing IMO

The last Td5s were '07 plate, so 4.5 years old. Last of the cheap road tax would be an early 2006 '55 plate - like mine

For a 110 CSW with low-ish miles you're looking at the £15k region. That's what I paid for mine 6 months ago - '55 plate CSW (not XS) with 45k on the clock, FSH, from an independent.

I'd agree with not buying one off a pikey on ebay. Find a dealer you trust.

The other thing I learnt is be prepared to travel. This depends a bit on where you live, but I ended up going to a dealer 150 miles away simply because where I live (the middle of nowhere) all the dealers jack their prices up to take advantage of the captive audience.

Good luck!

Agree with twopoint entirely - mine is also the last of the cheap road tax 2005 on a '55 plate. I also paid £15k just over a year ago, although mine is a 90 csw not a 110, but had only done 18k when I bought it. Took me an awful lot of searching to find it, and, like twopoint, I also had to travel 175 miles each way to view it and then collect it a week later, but I was happy to do that to get my ideal vehicle. Mine also has a full service history, having done around 3000 miles between services - initially serviced by main dealer and latterly by a local independent. The independent dealer I bought it from knew the history of the vehicle completely, as it had been in the local area - which gave me a lot of confidence. Basically - there are plenty of good ones out there, they can just take a bit of finding! Found mine through AutoTrader, so it's always worth using the main channels rather than thinking you have to be more specialised. Hope you find what you're looking for soon!

2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green

30th Oct 2011 11:42am

twopoint6khz

Member Since: 18 Aug 2011
Location: North Lakes
Posts: 654

In terms of 'known issues', I think most of the early problems with the Td5 (of which there were few anyway) had been fixed by the end of its run - e.g. metal dowels holding the head in position, replacement injector looms etc. I've had two and not had any trouble from engine or transmission, seems bulletproof

Mind you it bloody well ought to be, most of it had been in production since about 1996

The one thing I would say is maybe keep a wee bit of money back for doing it up - depends on what she's using it for of course, but if it's going to be predominantly a car then some soundproofing and a 1.22:1 transfer box could be a good move. Gearing on Td5s is much lower than the Puma due to the lack of 6th gear

30th Oct 2011 7:45pm

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