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jim4244



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Cost of 300Tdi timing belt change
Hi all

I have changed the timing belts on 200Tdi and 300Tdi Disco’s albeit back in the 1990’s. Before I bite off more than I can chew I thought that I would ask on here what the going rate is for a timing belt change on a Defender 300Tdi is at a garage these days?

Anyone had one done recently?

Jim
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TomB8



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Arles Blue
I can't advise on cost as I never had mine priced. Probably a couple hundred plus parts though.

If it helps, I did mine myself, having never done anything like it in the past (sound's like you have, so you should be in a better position than I was) and it wasn't too hard. The worst bits were 1. getting the fan off (mine had not been off for 14 years) I had to fabricate the tool sold by land rover - covered in a video by britanica restorations, pretty easy with a bit of 6mm thick bar and a grinder. 2. the crank bolt, I just bought a big makita impact, but the proper tool is readily available for not much money. As I'm sure you know, getting it off is easily achieved, but doing it back up is much harder.
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Jeebs



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Friend of mine did mine for mates rates, so I can’t give you an accurate cost. It’s worth noting that if you fit an improved kit that there’s a bracket needed for the injector pump.
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jim4244



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Tom, when we owned Disco’s in the 1990’s I had a welder fabricate me a tool for the crankshaft pulley. Since then we have moved to NZ and back and 4 other house moves and it has “dissapeared”

Hmmmm…… I tackle most jobs my self and whilst the timing belt isn’t technically hard it is a lot of bloody work for an old codger!

Jim
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Litch



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If I was still in Bedfordshire (Cranfield) I would have offered to help as I have all the tools (crankshaft locking tool, timing pins, puller, fan spanner etc) and have done my own 300TDi belt three times now.
As it is I moved to Oxfordshire last year so a bit too far. Crying or Very sad

I must admit, having the correct tools to hand makes it a breeze. I made the decision the first time I did it to buy them rather than making do and improvising, made life much easier and they have now paid for themselves.
Last time I did it (2021) I decided to also replace the water pump, P-gasket etc. Not certain if it was worth it as everything was still in fine condition (2004 engine, <60K miles from new) but it added very little time to the job. Always do the tensioner and seals though.



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familymad



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TomB8



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jim4244 wrote:
Tom, when we owned Disco’s in the 1990’s I had a welder fabricate me a tool for the crankshaft pulley. Since then we have moved to NZ and back and 4 other house moves and it has “dissapeared”

Hmmmm…… I tackle most jobs my self and whilst the timing belt isn’t technically hard it is a lot of bloody work for an old codger!

Jim


Jim,

Yes, it is time consuming. My thinking was, if I buy the tools I can change the belt as often as I like for free. I would say a decent impact (quoted as 1,000Nm+) is invaluable for making other jobs on a rusty old car easy. By the time you've deducted the cost of the correct tool and cost of paying someone to do the job, the nice impact is free! Very Happy But if you're not up for doing it that doesn't help you.

Sorry, none of this answers your question. You may have to call around local 4x4 specialists. I can give you details of the chap I use if I do need to have work done, but he is in Aylesbury.
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Procta



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Re: Cost of 300Tdi timing belt change
jim4244 wrote:
Hi all

I have changed the timing belts on 200Tdi and 300Tdi Disco’s albeit back in the 1990’s. Before I bite off more than I can chew I thought that I would ask on here what the going rate is for a timing belt change on a Defender 300Tdi is at a garage these days?

Anyone had one done recently?

Jim


back in 2018, i had one changed, and i paid nearly 300 quid. That was me supplying the parts, and the garage is a specialist, but a very expensive one too. So id ask a very decent garage for a price and supply them the bits. Thumbs Up Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Procta



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Yeah i do Razz the garage that did the belt change, are well known for charging stupid prices for bits. If i hadn't supplied the parts, id have been looking at a 500 quid bill.
They wanted to charge me £120 to put the TD5 on diagnostics, got it done for £25, Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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jfh



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In my country that's a lot of money.

I do my own work and did a whole service (filters, oil and timing belt) for about a 3rd of the £300.
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I did a 300Tdi belt a month or so ago. First time I'd done one of them, though I had recently done similar on things as diverse as a 1.2 Renault Clio, and a 4.0 V8 Range Rover. I also did the water pump and P gasket as this vehicle is due for a long run in warmer climates in the next 2 or 3 months.

I did have a big cordless impact gun, and the special crankshaft tool though, and the radiator was still off, but still I didn't think it was particularly difficult. If/when I do this again I would seriously consider removing the radiator again. I know it's not strictly necessary, but it does provide so much more access.

The only problem we had was that someone had loctited-on the crankshaft timing belt pulley. I had to fabricate a puller for the small M5 threads and I think trying to do that without removing the radiator would have been a real pain.

On the question of the fan removal tool, I bought one once and it was made of really soft cheese. The jaws opened almost straight away. At that point I took a proper 32mm spanner and attacked it with a grinder to make it thin enough to get between the fan and the viscous hub. Still plenty of meat on it to get the nut shifting, and in fact to still use it as a normal spanner. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
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2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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Litch



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Jim, have PM'd you. ONE LIFE, GET IT!
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Litch



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Shameless advertising here but the timing kit and locking tool I mentioned earlier is now for sale (along with all the other bits used to change the timing belt).
Sold my 90 last week so everything is now being sold, see my ad in the For Sale section. ONE LIFE, GET IT!
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