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Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 |
This one?
2.4 litrs from dry, 2.2 as a oil change. Click image to enlarge Rgds. Chris |
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5th May 2022 5:34pm |
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macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1061 |
that's the one
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5th May 2022 5:39pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319 |
Those are the numbers I remember.
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5th May 2022 6:09pm |
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Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3403 |
I placed a picture from my 2.2 manual on page 10 of this thread:
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8707-135.html 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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5th May 2022 6:28pm |
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X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 |
Haynes Owners Workshop Manual
Land Rover Defender 2007 - 2016 Transmission (Main Gearbox) oil renewal Unscrew the Drain Plug... allow the oil to drain... Unscrew the Filler/Level Plug... Fill the Gearbox... until the oil flows from the Filler/Level Plug hole... Capacities Main Gearbox: MT82 6 speed... 2.20 litres SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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6th May 2022 7:15am |
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Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 |
Good old Haynes, can't even get the sequence of plug removal correct....... Rgds. Chris |
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6th May 2022 8:34am |
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X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 |
Hello Pacha
and we have a new name the... Filler/Level Plug the irony is this is exactly what it should be, were Ford designing in 'flexibility'... SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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6th May 2022 10:42am |
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steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 566 |
My workshop manual states 2.4l for initial fill and 2.2l for service fill. The workshop manual does not state that you have to only put a maximum of 2.2l in. The volumes quoted could be just so know how much you'll need before you start. The Mustang could be different because of a different ratio set inside the box taking up a different volume. |
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6th May 2022 11:43am |
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Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1972 |
I pretty sure for the 2.4 what they mean by dry fill is the first time a new or refurbished gearbox is fitted you fill with 2.4L, then subsequently when you do an oil change you refill with 2.2L.
In the 2.2 owners manual they do not mention dry fill, only a refill figure of 2.4L. They also state this is the capacity, not the minimum. |
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6th May 2022 4:03pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4636 |
The engine in the Puma is at a slope so the gearbox is at a slope as well. If everything was level you could fill to the bottom of the filler plug but if you do that it will overfill and there is a chance of over heating the gearbox. That is what a mechanic told me when it was getting serviced. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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8th May 2022 5:24pm |
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macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1061 |
Just to say 'thank you' for this discussion. I've just had the gearbox oil changed at "my indie" and I thought they had screwed up (pun intended ) because from the dirt I could telll they used the "not the fill plug". But then I remembered this thread. So all's fine. Also, the "not the fill plug" is easier to get to, I think. |
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19th Nov 2023 4:17pm |
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LET'S OFF-ROAD Member Since: 05 Jun 2022 Location: Green Laning Posts: 61 |
Hmm - I may have filled my gearbox using the "DEFINITELY not the f**king fill plug" number 8 "RH reverse shift fork pivot bolt". Anyway it went back in fine and gearbox works fine. Have I got away with it?! I remember the plug being weirdly long (facepalm) and it was definitely a 12mm allen key head. |
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23rd Nov 2023 12:29am |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319 |
As long as it went back in and you can still engage all the gears (although not all at the same time - that would indicate a detent fault) and there are no coffee-grinder noises coming from the box, I'd say that you have got away with it.
It really is remarkable just how hard Ford and LR between them have made this simple task. It is also interesting to note that in the diagram I posted earlier in the thread there word "FILL" is clearly shown cast into the gearbox casing adjacent to the "definitely the right filler plug" plug, but this helpful feature is not present on any MT82 I have ever seen. |
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23rd Nov 2023 9:10am |
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macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1061 |
blackwolf Expert advice in easy-to-understand layman's terms.
Lucky that pivot bolt is not of the kind you unscrew and then hear a spring uncoil or a part falling down... |
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23rd Nov 2023 12:16pm |
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