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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4739  
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This program will be on Channel 4 on Friday.
 Click image to enlarge 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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25th Oct 2021 9:38pm |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..but..but..but...its greeeeeeeeen...
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26th Oct 2021 12:57pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2185  
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None of its 'green' though......
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26th Oct 2021 7:35pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4739
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I have a "Tonga Green" puma
 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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26th Oct 2021 7:37pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I guess that depends on your perspective... |
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26th Oct 2021 9:40pm |
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| Smyles_ Member Since: 25 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 518 
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Very dependent on where you live I'd say also.
Quite fed up of seeing memes like these all over the place though, despite how little love I have for EVs
It really doesn't take much time (ie less than a minute) to work out that a large portion of energy consumption in the UK comes from renewables. And if residing somewhere like Scotland, it's very nearly 100% Stuart
Cummins 130 Build Thread 58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue 04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone) 07 Audi RS4 Avant - Silver |
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27th Oct 2021 7:01am |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 675
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Lol, agree.
Suits a narrative. Would that be a Coal power station by any chance? Which provided 1.6% of the UK's electricity in 2020 I buy my electric from 100% renewable. For both home and business. |
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27th Oct 2021 7:28am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Didn't you say on a different thread you were with Bulb?
"When Bulb claims to supply renewable electricity ‘wherever possible’, it means just 4% of the time" https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/blog/2021/06/...-the-time/ And then Shell pulled the carpet from under them? |
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27th Oct 2021 7:39am |
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| jimbo55 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Midlands Posts: 400
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Whilst your supplier may only provide renewable energy to the grid, what you actually use could have come from any supplier, it’s a massive marketing trick by the providers and at some point recently you will have used energy from non renewable sources no matter what the provider says 👍 |
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27th Oct 2021 8:02am |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 675
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But I have PVs
 I don't have a problem with REGO. I'm aware in the car industry that a lot buy green credits from Tesla. Still ordered an LR though, or is that the BMW.
Similarly I use Shell. Pay 0.5p a litre more for fuel and they "green wash" elsewhere to offset. From Bulb's website https://help.bulb.co.uk/hc/en-us/articles/...lectricity |
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27th Oct 2021 8:02am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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You should do ~ they're empty certificates exploiting a loophole in the regulations: https://indd.adobe.com/view/e5febc9c-8ced-47e5-b376-f97fd51137af What do you think you are buying/funding? It's definitely not this:
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27th Oct 2021 9:01am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Yes - it's an abstract idea, but it's hardly "a massive marketing trick" if the energy you have bought is directly linked to a Power Purchase Agreement. You are paying for the renewable energy to be generated and put into the national grid, who consumes it and where is beside the point - it's the collective good you are doing. |
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27th Oct 2021 9:20am |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 675
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You would be naive to think that you can buy 100% renewable, without offsetting. I'm aware that people use the opposite argument to justify doing nothing and their position.
Here is the car version. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...tesla-grow I'm pretty sure I can find alternative schemes throughout the industry. Anyway for business use I have a nice certificate on recycled paper that tells me have much CO2 I have saved by buying 100% renewable energy. The Shell one is also an offset scheme which I contribute to. |
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27th Oct 2021 9:30am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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And yet here they are: Click image to enlarge What are you offsetting - you are funding near useless empty certificates bought on a secondary market? Click image to enlarge |
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27th Oct 2021 9:37am |
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