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Supacat



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Mike_E wrote:
yes that is a bit dissapointing as previous (and very recent) comms from them were "around £45k inc VAT and a bit less for the commercial variants"

now its 48k for bare bones and basically mid 50's for the others!

I think their consistent line was always:


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Which was always a little confusing if VAT is the main/only difference between the two then it should have been £40k and £48k.

But yes, there does feel to be a bit of bait and switch going on when we've only really seen the Station Wagon, quoted £45k retail, and now it's £48k for 2 seats and no rear side glass!

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indeed - saw somewhere the 5 seat versions are "about £5k more" which puts that at £53k instead of £45k.... quite a hike!
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its plausible that 45k wasnt OTR and so didnt include the what 2k first year VED?
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I guess it is, but then are you suggesting that they've now added that in?
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who knows tbh, giving them benefit of the doubt. we will no doubt find out soon.
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Can someone help out on some clarification please.
Road tax for the M1 SW will be different to the N1 commercial 5 seat version. The N1 commercial will have slightly different speed limits, but does it also suffer from the raised road tax for the first 5 years?
Also the only difference I can really see between commercial and M1 SW is the more upright rear seats due to the small amount of extra boot space.
Anyone know what the road tax is likely to be and if there are any other differences as the savings for getting a commercial could outweigh the benefits of getting a SW.
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They're all good questions but until we see more pricing detail then we can only guess.
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Farmerben wrote:
The launch 2 door Grenadier is going to be LWB (essentially like a 110 hard top) along with a 5 door (like a 110 USW) so considerably bigger than the 2dr Jeep. SWB will follow.


"SWB will follow" ~ is that just a wish or have you read it somewhere?


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Farmerben wrote:
The launch 2 door Grenadier is going to be LWB (essentially like a 110 hard top) along with a 5 door (like a 110 USW) so considerably bigger than the 2dr Jeep. SWB will follow.


"SWB will follow" ~ is that just a wish or have you read it somewhere?


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It’s in a fair few of the articles I’ve read about it. Scroll right to the bottom…
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/fir...-for-2020/ https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
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^^^ Nice thanks ~ there's a fair few new/ re-remembered insights in that article, not least:

"Tennant says 'Ineos Automotive will end up being a lot more than the Grenadier.’"

Further talk of the 7 seater model to follow "There will also be a twin-cab pick-up version, which has a longer wheelbase – likely to pave the way for a seven-seat Station Wagon."

"the roof guttering allows people to, with minor mods, put an existing roof rack on as well as the one we will offer." ~ not seen their offering yet, but I wonder what I need to swap over my Patriot rack?

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A swb would get me interested, 2024 would be ideal. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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Thast SWB render reminds my so much of a g-wagon. As I understand it they dont sell those professional versions anymore.
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Looks great doesn’t it. Don’t know why but I’ve never been into LWB 4x4s. Always been a massive fan of 90s, fourtraks, SWB shoguns, Landcruisers etc. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
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Additional pricing info coming out of Australia (if true and interesting if similar model to be applied worldwide) :

"Five-seat Ineos Grenadier priced from about $85,500

An extra row of seats in the Land Rover Defender-inspired four-wheel drive come at a premium of less than $1000, compared to the base two-seat model."

"These prices will apply to both petrol- and diesel-powered Grenadiers, with a fixed pricing model for Australia removing any room for negotiation by customers."

https://www.drive.com.au/news/five-seat-in...und-85500/
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