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OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver

Under drivers seat fuse box

Hi Guys, i have a bit of a mystery on my hands which is making me scratch me head a Tad.

I had a problem with the glow plug supply recently which B4lamb helped with curing, (Many thanks for the help it was very appreciated ) while in the fuse compartment under the driver seat checking all connections and relays making sure the screw down fuses were not blown I found a seperate blade fuse holder with two fuses, one has a 60 amp blade fuse the other a 30 amp fuse, when checking the 30 amp fuse I discovered it had blown!

The odd thing is everthing works that I can see, when checking with my multimeter one side of the 30amp blade is live as you would expect, inserting or leaving the 30 amp fuse out makes no diffence to any of the items needing power?

My question is to the forum and hopefully somebody that has an in depth knowledge of the Puma wiring system such as an auto electrician, can they advise what the 30 amp blade fuse serves? also some indication possibly what the 60 amp blade fuse powers up? I cannot find any reference to these two blade fuses anywhere!

Regards to all

Ole Dave

17th Apr 2021 8:40am

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Ah the 60amp stupid me is the glow plug relay, I had a moment of forgetfulness, the 30amp is the mystery?

Ole Dave

17th Apr 2021 1:15pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

see martin post below as fuse holder has been mist off the wiring diagrams

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 22nd Apr 2021 2:36pm. Edited 2 times in total

17th Apr 2021 1:31pm

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hi Dorset, the 60 amp fuse im advised is the glow plug protection fuse as the voltage there is identical to that of the GP rail voltage.

Ole Dave

17th Apr 2021 2:44pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

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FUSE holder and fuses are missing from wiring diagrams see below

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 22nd Apr 2021 2:35pm. Edited 2 times in total

17th Apr 2021 3:18pm

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hi Dorset, sorry for the delay in thanking you for the circuit drawings, unfortunately after studying both the drawings neither show the 60 amp or 30 amp fuses in question, however the drawings will be helpful for other things.

Many thanks

Ole Dave

22nd Apr 2021 8:03am

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

See up date LR need proof read wiring diagrams

and fuse are not even in owners hand book

and side note LR making all elect car O good Greeff best have fire bigrade on speed dial fire proof under pans

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 22nd Apr 2021 3:00pm. Edited 3 times in total

22nd Apr 2021 11:30am

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hi Dorset, thank you for your reply, at some point the previous owner or their mechanic has run riot in the under seat fuse and relay location as the glow plug relay was not connected!! Plus none of the relays were on their rail locations, its still the same as none of the relays will fit over the posts they are meant to be on which im going to sort out soon.

Will take a pic of the two fuses which are located in joint holders when I get home and you can then see for yourself the positions referred to plus the pickle the previous owners left the fuse location in with all the relays cable tied together in a bunch.

Cheers

Ole Dave

22nd Apr 2021 12:13pm

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2301

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

This is what my 2007 2.4 looks like. Just the 15a floating fuse holder feeding the ECM.
Do you have any photos of yours? Does it look factory? Are the wires taped up/bundled in with the factory loom or do they look aftermarket?

Click image to enlarge > 110 XS Double Cab

22nd Apr 2021 12:33pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17448

^^ My '07 is the same as the photo above (at least it was before I changed it).

22nd Apr 2021 1:23pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

under driver seat relay 07 lay out

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGkjGYAKccQbbHIHAo?e=gwagcl

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 22nd Apr 2021 2:03pm. Edited 1 time in total

22nd Apr 2021 1:29pm

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6611

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

The 60A is glow plug fuse, pre-relay. C0621 is the holder number, neither the fuse itself nor the input wire are shown on the wiring diagrams, just the wire out from the fuse (C0621-2) going to the glow relay C0215-1.

The 30A is for the starter, pre-relay. C1217 is the holder number, again not shown on the diagram. This time is it supposed to be shown in the feed into the starter relay C0151-30. The brown/white [NW] wire doesn't actually go all the way to the relay as shown, it actually goes to this fuse holder. Then there is a brown/grey [NS] 4.0 CSA wire from the fuse to relay terminal C0151-30.

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

22nd Apr 2021 1:36pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

LR 0 martin 2

22nd Apr 2021 2:52pm

Martin
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Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6611

Click image to enlarge

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

Last edited by Martin on 23rd Apr 2021 9:47am. Edited 2 times in total

22nd Apr 2021 3:12pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17448

dorsetsmith wrote:
under driver seat relay 07 lay out

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AtZSoWFHDgnGkjGYAKccQbbHIHAo?e=gwagcl

That's a link to a diagram that I produce and posted on this forum! I'm glad it's been useful, which it must be if it is now circulating on the web or in the cloud or whatever! Does it make me an Internet Legend?

22nd Apr 2021 3:38pm

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