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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
Advice from 130 owners please, plus restoration thread
Newbie to forum but not to Defenders Smile

Hello, I have recently bought a 130 Double Cab have owned a few 90s and 110s but this is first 130. This was an ex utility vehicle which had broken down and used by a dealer as a spare parts vehicle. I bought it from a friend who had started to upgrade it but basically a half finished project.

Problems started when i decided to move commercial looking dropside body to go for a more factory look and fit a hi cap body.

Land Rover only list one body mounting bracket which does not suit my 130 ! Panel gap between DC and HCPU is larger than expected, also have issue with rear overhang and bracket position.

Any advice will be much appreciated have tried to look at various photos online to see if i can find what i am looking for but no joy.

Shortage of 130s owners in my area please help

Will post pics of restoration as it evolves.

Cheers





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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
Could somebody please measure for me distance from rear cross member to rear lip of body and post pictures of rear brackets, would help a great deal.

Don't know whether this will be a factor or not but vehicle is 2003 where as hi cap body is off a 88/89 Turbo Diesel ?

Cheers


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SGH



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Is the rear body you have of a 130 or 110 hi-capacity?

The 130 hi-capacity body is shorter than a 110
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Rosso_NI



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As far as i can understand yes its 130 as it has the shorter section in front of the rear wheels.

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When it stops tipping it down with rain will attempt to take some pics of mine.
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AndrewS



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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
Thanks AndrewS it looks like those brackets are different or have been modified compared to brackets listed by Land Rover which i think are MTC3481 and MTC3482

The rear cross member brackets are even more of a mystery, i have even considered the prospect that my rear chassis has been shortened but it doesn't appear to be. Maybe some dimensions would satisfy my curiosity.
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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
Just found this photo LR bracket has extra fin at the top compare to AndrewS brackets, could a possible solution be to grind this off to allow body to come forward, mind you the bolt hole pattern might not allow the travel.

Some serious head scratching going on Sad


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AndrewS



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That bracket bolts to the underside of the tub (I think), the bracket that goes onto the chassis is bigger.

See below a couple of library pics I have.

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Hang on a bit my lads are up my workshop and the are going to email a pic of the brackets fitted.

There should be about 10mm to 20mm between the back of the cab and the front of the tub.
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AndrewS



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Does this help


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Rosso_NI



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Yep it helps have taken similar photos of mine, brackets are different alright, although these seem to be only ones my dealer list

Although not clear at the top of this bracket (attached to chassis) there is like a sharks fin with a fold this is stopping the body coming forward




Your body seems to be mounted using bottom two wholes if i cut the fin above off it may let me use bottom two holes although i think this will put body to high against double cab.





Gap between Body and double cab is more like 40mm

Think i might need to replace brackets on hi cap body as these were existing may just be a problem with trying to match up an older bracket with a new type.

Have not even tried to understand rear cross member bracket problems yet Confused Might leave that for another day..........
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AndrewS



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NS front tub mount. FYI the tub mounts are handed however they are both the same (well they are on my truck) So the 90 deg fold on the edge of the brackets on the chassis points to the NS whereas the fold on the tub brackets is towards the OS.



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Rear X member

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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
Well thats a relief rear cross member to body is similar measurement especially if i can get body forward by 20 mm or so although the cross member brackets my local dealer have supplied are too shallow an angle and not long enough will photograph tomorrow

Thanks for you help will try and battle it out with dealers, have you guys any parts dealers or specialists you can recommend that know whats what when it come to 130s ?

Cheers Very Happy
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Rosso_NI



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 110 2.5 n/a Diesel ST Galway Green
This appears to be a no brainer, but the rear x member bracket i have been supplied by dealer appears to be shorter and less of an angle, than brackets shown in AndrewS previous pictures.

As far as my local dealer are concerned ony one set of brackets is available for hi cap ? (This the case for front will double check rear brackets with them)



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