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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754  
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Apologies if this has been mentioned anywhere else and I missed it.
Any opinions/feedback on the “lift rods” which seem to be popular for the new defender? Particularly in the US; https://lucky8llc.com/collections/defender...-lift-rods I like the idea of a 1-2” lift, but the fact that you’re kind of “tricking” the car puts me off a little instinctively... Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. Last edited by Cheshire110 on 30th Sep 2020 10:59am. Edited 1 time in total |
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30th Sep 2020 9:13am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10381
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https://lucky8llc.com/collections/defender...-lift-rods
Fixed that for you. These have been popular with the D3/4 boys for some time. Don't worry about tricking it, it's not like you're sawing it in half and it can still move its feet. |
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30th Sep 2020 10:52am |
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| DonH2000 Member Since: 12 Jan 2015 Location: North Kent Posts: 551 
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Probably invalids warranty...... Cheers Don.
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30th Sep 2020 1:50pm |
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| StructuralDefect Member Since: 08 Aug 2020 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 44 
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So those rods make the vehicle believe it is two inches lower than it is correct? So normal ride height would then be close to off road height I suppose but what happens when you go to off road height? Does it go two inches higher than that? I am also guessing you lose the benefit of access height as well. The warranty thing would be a big concern. 2020 Defender S, P300 in Fuji White w/black ext. pack. Ebony leather heated front/rear seats. Comfort & conv. pack. Towing pack. Cold climate pack. Panoramic roof & expedition roof rack. Classic mud flaps. Fog lights. 19 inch 6 spoke w/off road tires. Clear sight rear view mirror. Sirius XM. Delivery 9/4/20
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30th Sep 2020 4:03pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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And a
 ride 130's have feeling's as well you know  |
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30th Sep 2020 6:04pm |
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| Digger2000 Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Newcastle Posts: 590 
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The Land Rover dealers in US are fitting them on new cars as an option so can’t see why it would void the warranty just make sure you ask them and get it in writing before you do.
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30th Sep 2020 6:11pm |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 
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The US market is different to the Uk/EU in that they operate the network as a separate entity and the warranty situation is very different in some aspects - Porsche have operated their US operation in the same way for years. Using 'what they do in the US' is unlikely to count for anything over here. Rgds. Chris |
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30th Sep 2020 6:35pm |
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| L90Andy Member Since: 29 May 2014 Location: Stratford-Upon-Avon Posts: 717 
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The advantage of these are better ground clearance.
The main disadvantages of these are; less suspension compliance and therefore composure offroad due to loss of rebound travel and massively increased wear on driveshafts as permanently running at higher angle not designed for constant running. Remember the initial point of gaining extra ground clearance, well the standard car can do this if it needs to with the extended and super extended modes and while they cannot be accessed by the driver, it is the inbuilt solution when the need arises rather than introduced the permanent compromises as above. I've seen a video of an L663 attempting a rock climb with these fitted. Its shockingly unstable like its bobbing around on stilts. I'm convinced a standard one would've handled it better due to letting the suspension travel properly. Instagram: l90andy 2006 Land Rover 90 TD5 CSW Silver Edition My 1984 Ninety: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56071.html - SOLD! My 2015 Defender: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39625.html - SOLD! |
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30th Sep 2020 9:15pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1316 
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I agree with L90Andy. I don't see what is gained by fitting them as the air suspension system is designed to give increased body height when needed off road.
The higher centre of gravity when used on the road must surely upset the handling and stability. |
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1st Oct 2020 6:58am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8027  
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Ground clearance on these is good anyway. No diff exposed in beam axle for starters.
Higher you go the narrower the track and as already mentioned the greater the angles on drivetrain components. LR R&D budget is pretty big, there must be some good founding behind 90s only in extended and super extended modes....... We have one particular climb at work, rrvse, super extended, if they take the wrong turn on the way up, fns cv goes bang Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop Last edited by jst on 1st Oct 2020 10:22am. Edited 1 time in total |
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1st Oct 2020 8:35am |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2754
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Thanks for all the input guys - I think most of you have the same instincts as me - I’m sure the standard range of height options will be more than enough for what we all want to use the vehicle for, to be honest. Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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1st Oct 2020 10:14am |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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Back in the day we compared a standard D3 against a rod lifted D3. The standard car was mine. The course was at Yarwell Quarry and very extreme. The rod lifted car failed the course, it was bouncy and its wheels were off the ground alot. My standard car had better suspension travel kept its tyres on the deck longer thus got grip, there is a video over on the D3/4 site somewhere. 130's have feeling's as well you know
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1st Oct 2020 4:34pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8027
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Weight was lower and it was actually working within its design parameter!
Only time I see extra lift being advantageous ruts, approach angle and ramp over. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop Last edited by jst on 2nd Oct 2020 9:32am. Edited 1 time in total |
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1st Oct 2020 5:24pm |
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| GreenMonster Member Since: 30 Sep 2020 Location: Virginia Posts: 77
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Just search YouTube for 4x4 rollovers and you’ll see plenty of lifted rigs bouncing over onto their roofs. Some non-lifted rigs as well to be sure, but it doesn’t take an automotive engineering degree to see what lifts can do to handling.
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2nd Oct 2020 3:00am |
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